Gaining control of a creature and owners

Asked by Mairon_Bauglir 7 years ago

Hello, I am wondering how ownership and graveyard rules apply to situations. like if Geth, Lord of the Vault puts an opponent's Relentless Dead under your control, then it died and you paid it's first saving effect cost, would it return to your hand or your opponents since they technically owned that creature? I hope I phrased this question well enough as it is a rather confusing topic and I would appreciate any help on clarifying it.

pskinn01 says... Accepted answer #1

It would go to the player who owned the card. Control is a state of a object in the game that can change. Ownership is always the player playing the object from the beginning of the game, ie a card is owned by the player who is playing the deck that it was in. Ownership of non cards like tokens are done by who controlled it first, ie if an abiity of a permanent you control puts tokens under your opponents control, your opponent would be the owner of those tokens.

February 16, 2017 10:31 a.m. Edited.

Epochalyptik says... #2

As an addendum, when cards go to hidden zones (library, hand) or to a graveyard, they go to the subpar of that zone belonging to the card's owner. In short, it goes to the owner's hand if it would go to any hand at all.

Note also that Relentless Dead's rules text explicitly states that the card returns to its owner's hand.

February 16, 2017 12:32 p.m.

Mairon_Bauglir says... #3

Thanks for the tidbit Epochalyptik I was just wondering about that as well.

February 16, 2017 12:49 p.m.

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