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Creature — Vampire Beserker
Discard a card: Olivia's Dragoon gains flying until end of turn.
Olivia's Dragoon Discussion
1 month ago
I think it's worth pointing out that you need 2 creatures with undying on the board at the same time with at least 1 of them not having a +1/+1 counter on it for this combo to work (or, as you said, 1 Undying creature with Nest of Scarabs). Just worth explaining the combo somewhere in your primer so people understand how the combo works, imo.
Beyond that, I don't see many definitive wincons once you draw your whole deck. A Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat makes the most sense as you have a sacrifice loop, but it's complicated by the fact you must draw a card with Yawgmoth's ability so you're limited by the size of your library. Some kind of a discard outlet to allow you to keep discarding Kozilek to shuffle the yard into your library would allow this to be a definitive loop. If this was why you included Awaken the Erstwhile , note that this will not work as the trigger to shuffle your graveyard resolves before Awaken the Erstwhile finishes resolving (I would suggest getting rid of this unless there's an interaction I'm missing). Some discard outlets I would recommend:
- Sadistic Hypnotist - Though limited to sorcery speed and needing a creature to sacrifice, you're bound to have small creatures and tokens to sacrifice and this can be used equally well against opponents while you're grinding out the game.
- Putrid Imp - One of the cheapest repeatable discard outlets you can find. Probably my top pick.
- Olivia's Dragoon - More expensive than the Imp, but still repeatable at instant speed.
Though I know you're not including it for budget reasons, Lion's Eye Diamond is quite possibly the best discard outlet you can run as it also allows you to create infinite mana through this loop allowing for a huge Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire (which, by the way, I would also suggest adding somehwere). I'm not expecting you to add LED, just felt I should mention it for others hoping to make a spin on this!
If you want to push this into being more cEDH, I would swap out some of your mediocre cards (e.g. Weaponcraft Enthusiast , Sengir Autocrat , Big Game Hunter , Awaken the Erstwhile ) for some of the following:
- Any of the discard outlets I talked about above.
- More instant speed removal (e.g. Snuff Out , Devour in Shadow , Go for the Throat , Smother ) since that is pretty much the extent of your interaction in mono Black and you'll probably need it against faster decks.
- Entomb and Buried Alive with your existing reanimation package (plus maybe Animate Dead ) to be able to cheat creatures like Mikaeus, the Unhallowed onto the board.
- More fast mana (i.e. Chrome Mox , maybe Mana Vault , Mana Crypt if you disregard budget).
I like the idea for this, though, and hope you enjoy the deck!
2 months ago
This is now the 3rd revision. In this revision I removed Olivia's Dragoon , Succumb to Temptation , Murderous Compulsion , Abundant Maw , Fiery Temper , Pale Rider of Trostad , Stromkirk Condemned , Vampire Cutthroat , Bloodrage Brawler , Call the Bloodline , Sanguinary Mage , Furyblade Vampire .
Instead more powerful vampires were added as well as cards that were cheaper with a draw mechanic.
2 months ago
The list looks fine for the most part. I’d consider swapping Skirge Familiar for Olivia's Dragoon or if you want a non creature alternative Chain of Smog can work. I find the familiar is typically a bit too expensive and the mana he generates is typically unnecessary when we can loop petals/rituals. I’d also consider swapping Devoted Druid or Lotus Cobra for Wall of Roots due to it being able to turn infinite black into infinite green with Necromancy and Culling the Weak .
Here’s a link to the gitrog discord they should be able to give more advice. https://discord.gg/yegyWs
3 months ago
For those who are not familiar with this combo it goes something like this: (Otherwise skip to the second paragraph if you know how this works.)
All you need is The Gitrog Monster and a card like Noose Constrictor on the battlefield with the card Dakmor Salvage in hand. (Note: it doesn't need to be Noose Constrictor as Lotleth Troll , Olivia's Dragoon , Oblivion Crown , or any other free discard outlet will work for this.) By discarding Dakmor Salvage to the Noose Constrictor , The Gitrog Monster will trigger allowing you to draw a card for having a land enter your graveyard, however; you can then replace that draw trigger with the same Dakmor Salvage you discarded to dredge it back into your hand. Essentially through continuous dredges you'll put more lands into your graveyard from your library allowing you to draw extra cards into your hand. In your deck you'll also have either an Emrakul, the Aeons Torn , Kozilek, Butcher of Truth , Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre , or Gaea's Blessing to eventually mill into your graveyard. This will allow you to shuffle your graveyard into your deck an infinitely repeatable number of times until you can draw all the cards in your deck for free due to stacking draw triggers. At this point you can probably utilize any win condition of your choice such as exiling multiple Simian Spirit Guide 's to cast Conflagrate or Lightning Storm for lethal.
While 5 mana is a big asking price for the fast Modern environment, Ad Nauseam decks still see some degree of play, whereas this strategy I don't believe sees any. The Gitrog Monster is also very resistant against a lot of common Modern removal such as Lightning Bolt , Lightning Helix , Abrupt Decay , Inquisition of Kozilek , Fatal Push , Dismember , Lightning Axe , Thing in the Ice Flip, and unlike Ad Nauseam decks it also survives against Duress , Collective Brutality , Dispel , Negate , and Spell Pierce . Furthermore if you try to remove the discard outlet or exile their graveyard while the first draw/dredge trigger is on the stack, the Gitrog Monster player may still have the option to discard another land or activate a different draw effect ( Street Wraith , Ghost Quarter ) in response to the removal spell to put another draw/dredge trigger on the stack on top of the removal spell, effectively allowing the Gitrog player to draw out their deck with the removal still on the stack. Lastly, there a lot of tutor/search effects that can make assembling this combo more consistent such as Adventurous Impulse , Oath of Nissa , Grisly Salvage , Sylvan Scrying , Summoner's Pact , Time of Need , Traverse the Ulvenwald , and even Goryo's Vengeance can make pulling off this combo much faster as well as consistently.
5 months ago
You might want to split this into two decks, as you seem to have lot of the makings for two archetypes here.
Looking at the Madness side of things, that deck generally wants to be absurdly aggro and pummel things down with its underpriced creatures, but you currently only have 4 reliable discard outlets, the 2 Stromkirk Condemned and 2 Furyblade Vampires, and that makes it hard reliably abuse the discount Madness cards give you. I'd greatly recommend adding more Furyblades and a playset of Heir of Falkenrath Flips for evasive outlets, and then either 2 more Stromkirk Condemned if your landbase can reliably support it as a 2 drop, or some Insolent Neonate s OR Olivia's Dragoon s otherwise, as both are also evasive outlets.
You may also consider a playset of Fiery Temper in place of Terminate , as the 3 damage takes care of most early drops and you can discard it to your outlets for an upside, not to mention chuck it at the opponent's head.
From my testing with the card, Olivia, Mobilized for War is extremely non-ideal for a Madness deck, as you will only rarely have the mana to pay for both an initial creature drop AND the Madness cost of whatever you discard -- both the Stromkirk Captain you are running and Drana, Liberator of Malakir serve as better top end support cards for the deck.
Looking at Madness creatures, if you can reliably burn through your hand fast enough the Bloodhall Priest effectively becomes a 4/4 Shock on a stick for 3 mana, which is amazingly efficient, while the Incorrigible Youths make for devastating turn 3 swings. I won't say they are necessarily better than the Occultist/Asylum/Bloodmad, but only because they are easier to cast on curve if you miss a discard outlet.
For the other deck it looks like you have the pieces for here, I'd recommend dropping the discard/madness theme and focusing on the White/Black tokens from Ixalan instead -- anthem effects are extremely powerful with those tokens, especially since their large numbers quickly enable the Bloodline Keeper and Captivating Vampire. That deck also still likes Drana, Liberator of Malakir , as she puts her counters on the tokens before they hit due to first-strike, and opens up the Indulgent Aristocrat as a highly effective 1 drop. Vampire Nocturnus also synergizes a lot more with that deck, since more of the drops are black, while the Madness deck tends to run red with a splash of black.
6 months ago
- Phyrexian Plaguelord
- Avenger of Zendikar
- Noxious Gearhulk
- Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker
- Praetor's Counsel
- Beastcaller Savant
- Blood Bairn
- Olivia's Dragoon
- Nezumi Graverobber
- Final Parting
- Diabolic Tutor
- Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
From some test plays, Greater Good + my infinite green mana loop can draw my deck very easily, only problem is running out of black mana, so I wanted to try address both the pain of death to self mill and a better option for right now to get black mana.
So addition of Kozilek can help me :
1) Gitrog Card Draw Combo when I acquire gitrog for deck,
2) allow me avoid self mill from greater good,
3) if I havent used Songs of the Damned yet, can help me acquire a large amount of black mana by rotating through my deck.
Olivia's Dragoon is an instant speed discard outlet which like Kozilek will help me with Gitrog Card Draw Combo.
Blood Bairn is a cheaper no cost sac outlet and pumps herself which can work nicely with Greater Good.
Final Parting + Diabolic Tutor more cheap tutors for deck, Final Parting is nice as it puts stuff into grave.
Nezumi Graverobber is added in more specifically to play graveyard hate as deadeye tracker is not multi use in 1 turn.
Removed Avenger of Zen as it was more a midrange card combo option with world shaker, but is too slow due to the summon sickness on the plants.
Removed Praetor's Counsel, as being able to discard to handsize is beneficial and a filled graveyard is far more valuable to Meren, was solely a "fun" card due to stupid hand size when played.
Removed Noxious Gearhulk as its cmc is too high for what you get in return.
Removed Shirei as it was far to much setup to get the value out of him, too slow to get value out of him and was never a card I tutored for.
Removed Plaguelord due to it being a rather high cmc sac outlet, may end up being put back in as it does help clear boards and kill indestructible creatures.
7 months ago
No Mulch? Wow, -1.
8 months ago
@timmyt1000 Skirge Familiar 's mana generation is almost never useful so it mostly gets evaluated as a generic 5 cmc discard outlet, which is obviously pretty bad. I would rather be running Olivia's Dragoon (which I am in this list) or Oona's Prowler .
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