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Flash (You may play this spell any time you could play an instant.)
Enchanted creature has "Discard a card: This creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn."
Oblivion Crown Discussion
2 months ago
What're your thoughts on Mausoleum Secrets possibly seeing play in this list? The idea being that it could, in theory, fetch Oblivion Crown , Squandered Resources , or something else of value? (Assassin's Trophy for example...)
As an added oddball question, with the unbanning of Painter's Servant , has there been any discussion between you, Razillox, or Kiebitzen about P.S.'s possible inclusion? The rationale behind this thought is that with it on the field (Naming Black), Autumn's Veil and Veil of Summer become more powerful, and can be found via Mausoleum Secrets. Additionally, for those that want to be cheeky monkeys, that also makes Lifeforce a possible consideration for budget lists.
I'll also drop you a line via discord in case you're not able to check the primer.
3 months ago
Cuickbrownfox1 Thanks for the upvote! I did consider Veil of Summer over Autumn's Veil since it is better in most circumstances. However, when comboing off Veil of Summer has the unfortunate side effect of drawing us a card if we're trying to protect Oblivion Crown from a counterspell. At this point in the combo our library is empty and there's no way to discard Kozilek, Butcher of Truth so we will loose to our own draw trigger.
4 months ago
those cards just aren't great, as they either cost too much mana, aren't a valid wincon, or slow down the deck. I would play Snuff Out , as it's a free removal spell at instant speed, as well as Golgari Grave-Troll , Wild Mongrel , and Oblivion Crown to hasten the set up of the combo.
6 months ago
Hello, glad to hear you like it! The Rath's Edge loops still are written as part of a more classic line, where you stack a ton of draw triggers first, then remove Gitrog yourself so those "in-between triggers" don't occur.
The newer lines that you use to create infinite green mana with Crop Rotation also can be applied to this situation from what I can gather, I just never updated those specific lines with Edge due to us being much more resilient to cheeky discard outlet removal when you have both infinite green and black, as well as complete access to your whole deck with cards like Autumn's Veil , Oblivion Crown and repeatable recursion with Noxious Revival to back up any corner cases.
The primer lacks the disclaimer that you need to sacrifice Gitrog anyhow, so thanks for pointing it out! I'll fix that ASAP.
7 months ago
8 months ago
For those who are not familiar with this combo it goes something like this: (Otherwise skip to the second paragraph if you know how this works.)
All you need is The Gitrog Monster and a card like Noose Constrictor on the battlefield with the card Dakmor Salvage in hand. (Note: it doesn't need to be Noose Constrictor as Lotleth Troll , Olivia's Dragoon , Oblivion Crown , or any other free discard outlet will work for this.) By discarding Dakmor Salvage to the Noose Constrictor , The Gitrog Monster will trigger allowing you to draw a card for having a land enter your graveyard, however; you can then replace that draw trigger with the same Dakmor Salvage you discarded to dredge it back into your hand. Essentially through continuous dredges you'll put more lands into your graveyard from your library allowing you to draw extra cards into your hand. In your deck you'll also have either an Emrakul, the Aeons Torn , Kozilek, Butcher of Truth , Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre , or Gaea's Blessing to eventually mill into your graveyard. This will allow you to shuffle your graveyard into your deck an infinitely repeatable number of times until you can draw all the cards in your deck for free due to stacking draw triggers. At this point you can probably utilize any win condition of your choice such as exiling multiple Simian Spirit Guide 's to cast Conflagrate or Lightning Storm for lethal.
While 5 mana is a big asking price for the fast Modern environment, Ad Nauseam decks still see some degree of play, whereas this strategy I don't believe sees any. The Gitrog Monster is also very resistant against a lot of common Modern removal such as Lightning Bolt , Lightning Helix , Abrupt Decay , Inquisition of Kozilek , Fatal Push , Dismember , Lightning Axe , Thing in the Ice Flip, and unlike Ad Nauseam decks it also survives against Duress , Collective Brutality , Dispel , Negate , and Spell Pierce . Furthermore if you try to remove the discard outlet or exile their graveyard while the first draw/dredge trigger is on the stack, the Gitrog Monster player may still have the option to discard another land or activate a different draw effect ( Street Wraith , Ghost Quarter ) in response to the removal spell to put another draw/dredge trigger on the stack on top of the removal spell, effectively allowing the Gitrog player to draw out their deck with the removal still on the stack. Lastly, there a lot of tutor/search effects that can make assembling this combo more consistent such as Adventurous Impulse , Oath of Nissa , Grisly Salvage , Sylvan Scrying , Summoner's Pact , Time of Need , Traverse the Ulvenwald , and even Goryo's Vengeance can make pulling off this combo much faster as well as consistently.
9 months ago
Thanks for the nice words and feedback! I'm honestly not sure what's up with Circular Logic . I tried changing the printing but it still shows as an illegal card despite it definitely being pauper legal.
I was just talking today with some people who suggested putting in some cycle lands, I wasn't sure if it mattered whether they are Barren Moor or Lonely Sandbar . I will definitely do that though. Makes them way more valuable in late game.
I had thought about Putrid Imp and Aquamoeba but both are pretty vulnerable to ping (amoeba opens up when I activate its ability) and I liked the relatively more hearty Dragoon with the evasion it gives. I settled on Oblivion Crown as the alternate/supplementary engine since it can allow Cunning Survivor and Grisly Survivor to become even more threatening while being a little more difficult to remove (at least that's my inexperienced thought).
I really like the idea of Gorgers for applying pressure but I'm just not sure what to take out for them. Maybe I don't need Duress and Divest in the sideboard, so I can move some removal (of which I have a lot) and put the Gorgers in.
I'm also wondering if I should have some way to draw. Something like the Careful Study I have in the maybe board. It's why I was also considering Looter il-Kor . I've also kicked around the idea of a Thorn of the Black Rose for the draw that comes with Monarch.
Sorry for the lengthy reply and thanks again!
10 months ago
mal099, the problem with Rite of Consumption effects is that the creature isn't dealing damage so Tainted Strike won't work. With one Horror of the Broken Lands , you would need to discard 8 cards to make it a one-shot. On the other hand, I really like Oblivion Crown as it seems to slide in perfectly.
Oblivion Crown occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%