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Oblivion Crown
Enchantment — Aura
Flash (You may play this spell any time you could play an instant.)
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature has "Discard a card: This creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn."
Lup3rcal on
A blight on the land - The Gitrog Monster
1 year ago
Things I might consider cutting:
Oblivion Crown - discard is nice but this one breaks as soon as the creature on it does - too flimsy.
Elvish Spirit Guide and Dark Ritual - let you do some pop off things if you draw the nuts, but unless you're winning with them I think they're not worth the card slot. Sure you can potentially turn two Gitrog, but unless you're set on that bucket list item, these wouldn't make the cut for me.
Putrid Imp - of your creature discard pieces, this one is the worst: no inherent upside for discard and can't even chump after you hit threshold. (I'm also squinting at Olivia's Dragoon; it's never going to contest anything important in the air so same concerns)
Riftsweeper - a glorified grizzly bear. It assuages the fear of losing a cool card to exile, but that card goes back to the library so you dont gain any card advantage from it. Unless your deck simply cannot function without one of the 99, riftsweeper doesnt help you win
Diabolic Intent and Ashnod's Altar - I don't see much in the way of token generation / reanimation, so these sac effects don't get great value IMO. yes, you can recycle a mana dork, but you may need those dorks to chump, and both cards are dead if your board has been damaged.
Triumph of the Hordes - similar to above, I don't see enough creatures/power in here for the payoff. You could pump the shit out of a Noose Constrictor, but Tainted Strike does the same at cheaper and instant speed. Arguably it lets the eldrazi titans one shot people but trust me, if you're swinging with those you're already winning.
Aetherflux Reservoir - doesn't seem useful outside of the citadel. Maybe you have more infinite combos turning this into a wincon, but I dont see them. But, I would be curious to see this playtested. Expect it to draw some aggro even if you're playing it "fairly".
Treasured Find - actually not awful, just curious why this over Eternal Witness or a similar dork
And suggested additions:
Abundance - let's you do the sick play of putting ALL LANDS IN YOUR DECK into your graveyard with the frog and a discard outlet then you have pure gas, and can reanimate the lands in any number of ways
World Shaper - no love for the land reanimator?
PANDASrevenge on
Jund Lands
1 year ago
looks like you could use some discard outlets to win with gitrog monster. Wild Mongrel,Oblivion Crown, Noose Constrictor and Putrid Imp are the best ones. Also I recently switched from krosan grip to nature's claim and have seen good results. also the green gifts ungiven seems great in here. Realms Uncharted. also maybe it's time to look to some mana rock acceleration despite the flavor fail. Expedition Map at the very least feels like an auto include.
Macaronigrill5150 on
Screaming Bald Guys Tribal MK2
1 year ago
I think these are kind of a stretch but Ad Nauseam, Brink of Madness, and Oblivion Crown
legendofa on Fun Original wincons for Queen …
2 years ago
Greater Gargadon into Barren Glory , with a side of Oblivion Crown .
seshiro_of_the_orochi on
Cheating Made Easy: Ramirez DePietro & Armix
3 years ago
This list is cool, I like the idea. Some cards you could try are the following:
Dakmor Salvage can put cards into your graveyard and can basically draw you cards with Ramirez. The same goes for Contingency Plan. Also, how about Oblivion Crown for additional commander damage with Ramirez? Finally, Shadow of the Grave seems really powerful.
StopShot on What is the best commander …
3 years ago
2.) Combo-kill.
3.) The Gitrog Monster has a lot of casual variations, but it gets busted in competitive EDH if you plan to go infinite with Dakmor Salvage and any of the various free repeatable discard outlets such as: Earsplitting Rats, Grotesque Hybrid, Noose Constrictor, Oblivion Crown, Olivia's Dragoon, Oona's Prowler, Patchwork Gnomes, Putrid Imp, Skirge Familiar, Trespasser il-Vec, Tunneler Wurm or Wild Mongrel.
Upon discarding the Dakmor Salvage, The Gitrog Monster allows you to draw a card which you can use to dredge the Dakmor Salvage back. As you can see you have an infinite mill loop, BUT for every land you mill, you also get a draw trigger from The Gitrog Monster. Not only that, but in your deck you have one or more of these grave-shuffle effects: Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre or Gaea's Blessing. Milling any of those cards puts all milled cards back into your library, so you can keep racking up draw triggers until you have your entire deck in your hand.
At this point you can free cast Lotus Petal and/or Dark Ritual and then shuffle them back into your library to draw again by discarding a grave shuffler followed by any number of lands in your hand to draw them back and repeat. You now have infinite mana of any color in your hand along with every card in your library in your hand and the ability to recast any card in your hand as many times as you want. Simplest method of winning is just to cast Walking Ballista for a million mana but really any card that causes a loss of life that can easily be put back in the grave upon use so you can cycle it back will work. Also if your opponents have something like Leyline of Sanctity or any other protection card you can freely cast and recast your Assassin's Trophy and/or Maelstrom Pulse as many times as you want to bypass the issue.
But what if they exile your Dakmor Salvage? Use Riftsweeper to get it back and if that fails use your back-up Mirror of Fate to recur it after you've milled your library thoroughly with some value engine like Mesmeric Orb. You basically have to also exile their recursion cards to remove the land for good or use Praetor's Grasp as a silver bullet.
Why not just use a removal spell or graveyard hate spell/ability while the first dredge trigger is on the stack to interrupt the combo? Well, that could work, but keep in mind if they discard a another land card while its on the stack they can dredge off of that and run through their combo all while removal is on the stack effectively bypassing any number of removal spells equal to the extra lands in their hand. By the time the removal spell as has resolved they will have infinite black mana from Dark Ritual and a Lotus Petal to cast afterward allowing them to just recast whatever was removed or just win by hard-casting the aforementioned Walking Ballista.
If Tormod's Crypt won't work you could use Rest in Peace or Planar Void to stop it, but these decks run so many Naturalize effects because they know that's the only real effective answer you have to stop it.
Oh, and get this. If you can't find a discard outlet you can use your discard step to discard down to hand size to go infinite and win the game that way as the discard step repeats if an ability is triggered due to discarding down to hand size. Which means all you really need is the land which you can find with all the black tutors and green provides its own land tutor effects as well. Given you're also in green playing a turn 2 or 3 The Gitrog Monster is fairly possible which can be the same turn you win on.
The deck is too consistent at winning. People don't play it though, because certain interactions get very complex in rules interactions which means you need a solid understanding of how to pilot it, and those who do know how to pilot it find it boring as winning can be so fast and consistent it doesn't even feel like you're playing Magic anymore. Also the deck can get pretty pricey to acquire all the cards you need. That combination of factors is why it doesn't see much play otherwise it would be banned straight out of existence if sanctioned competitive EDH tournaments were more common in my opinion.
simondiamond2012 on
Gitrog Dredge Combo [Primer]
4 years ago
@Leptys:
What're your thoughts on Mausoleum Secrets possibly seeing play in this list? The idea being that it could, in theory, fetch Oblivion Crown , Squandered Resources , or something else of value? (Assassin's Trophy for example...)
As an added oddball question, with the unbanning of Painter's Servant , has there been any discussion between you, Razillox, or Kiebitzen about P.S.'s possible inclusion? The rationale behind this thought is that with it on the field (Naming Black), Autumn's Veil and Veil of Summer become more powerful, and can be found via Mausoleum Secrets. Additionally, for those that want to be cheeky monkeys, that also makes Lifeforce a possible consideration for budget lists.
I'll also drop you a line via discord in case you're not able to check the primer.
Stay Chill.
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