Spoils of the Vault
Name a card. Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal the named card, then put that card into your hand. Remove all other cards revealed this way from the game, and you lose 1 life for each of the removed cards.
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Spoils of the Vault Discussion
1 week ago
3 weeks ago
shinobigarth: Sort of. The curious thing about Phyrexian Unlife is that your negative life total doesn't matter - it's simply that damage gives you poison counters. Losing life for other reasons, such as Spoils of the Vault, can plunge you into crazy negative life without giving you any poison counters. Thus, you're not really at fear of killing yourself with self life drain.
You're right that you need Melira out to survive your opponent's damage output, though. But generally, in my experience, the 10 extra "life" you get out of Unlife is enough of a delay to get out Death's Shadow and swing for a win. I have sideboarded another Melira for more aggro or burn decks just in case I need it, but the main problem here is that she still easily eats removal and this deck should play more aggressively than that. I've thought about throwing in Everlasting Torment as it basically makes you and your creatures immune to anything but exile and boardwipes, but it just seems too slow. Hmm...
Tyrannosary: I thought Confluence was superior as well, but actually, City of Brass is really important in this deck. The reason being that if I'm below 0 life, I can't pay life (after all, you can't pay life you don't have!). Making Mana Confluence worthless once I'm below 0 life. City of Brass, however, continues to function just fine.
And you're definitely right, my sideboard needs work. If you have any suggestions I'd love to hear them!
3 weeks ago
Charles_Grimlie: With the majority of the cards requiring black mana, I almost never found myself needing a land dedicated to green/white. Between City of Brass and fetches, I've had basically no mana problems. But I'll definitely consider throwing a one-off of Temple Garden if my experience suggests it might be helpful!
That's a great comment about counter heavy decks, and I'm not sure what the answer is. I'm usually a more tempo/control player, and decks that can out-value counters in their aggressiveness are obviously the bane of counter-heavy decks. I imagine that this deck is so reliant on a few important card components (namely Phyrexian Unlife, Spoils of the Vault and Death's Shadow) that one well-placed counter turn 2 or 3 will likely halt it right in its tracks. The deck already has a go-big-or-go-home sort of vibe to it, which I'm fine with, and I think it's hilarious digging for Unlife with Spoils on turn 1 and killing yourself. But it'd be better if there was some way to mitigate the effectiveness of counters against it. Sadly I'm not sure what might provide that. I'm all ears for ideas!
At any rate, thanks for commenting :)
1 month ago
1 month ago
Hi here are some budget cards that I know of that can help filter or directly search for what you want.
Demonic Consultation is a sweet option and probably my favorite. You don't have to pay any life, but you do run some risk of missing the card you want if it is in your top six cards. So it would be better to use this to grab something that you have in multiples like a Shallow Grave or an Exhume.
Spoils of the Vault very similar to the above card, but you have to pay life. This card can be somewhat of a gamble, could just kill you.
Demonic Tutor might break the budget but it is incredible.
Rhystic Tutor is much worse than the demonic version and possibly worse than Diabolic Tutor and Dark Petition, but can be cost sooner than those last two. Depends on what kind of decks you think you'll be facing. If you think you'll have time, it might be better to go with more expensive, but more consistent tutors.
Peer Through Depths can find most of your relevant cards.
Pieces of the Puzzle is similar to Peer Through Depths, but I think the extra mana is worth it here because it grabs two cards AND if there happens to be any creatures in the five, it dumps them right into the graveyard. You'll have to test it to see if the mana cost is too prohibitive, I don't think it will be because you have rituals and lotus petals.
Ideas Unbound can draw into what you need while providing a discard outlet for creatures. Risky, and costs UU so it might not have a place here.
My top three to possibly replace or augment Lim-Dul's Vault would be: Demonic Consultation, Demonic Tutor, and Pieces of the Puzzle. Some number of these cards should help with consistency. Good luck!
2 months ago
Any damage will cause you to accumulate poison counters. This isn't necessarily combat damage. Some older spells like Ashes to Ashes will inflict it on yourself, direct damage like Lightning Bolt, Searing Spear, or Chandra's Ignition (which causes a creature to damage you) can all potentially kill you because they will deal damage as though they had infect.
Effects that just cause loss of life won't be able to kill you, like Spoils of the Vault, as you suggested.
If your life is too low, you won't be able to pay life either, for things like Necropotence.
2 months ago
I played an Phyrexian Unlife, if I get damaged by creatures or spells now, I get poison counters.
But if I lose any life through effects of my own cards, like Spoils of the Vault, will this Lifeloss count as damage/poison counters? Or will I just get negative life?
Oh and sorry for my english :<
2 months ago
In a "full blown smash face aggro" Ad naus is well positioned since it has 4 instant speed time walks in the form of Angel's Grace. Yes it has a poor match up against infect but other than that it's a great deck. It usually pack 4 Leyline of Sanctity against discard since it is indeed another weakness, but either Mystical Teachings or Spoils of the Vault can go get what they need and you lose on the spot. A friend of mine plays Ad Naus as his only modern deck and I lost to it many times piloting Affinity, Storm and to a lesser extent, Living End. I did also win many times against it, the deck is not perfect, but it's a cool deck to have in the format.
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