Rouse

Instant

If you control a Swamp, you may pay 2 life rather than pay Rouse's mana cost.

Target creature gets +2/+0 until end of turn.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (5)

Goblin_Guide on Munch

3 years ago

Aaah MAN I can NOT beLIEVE I forgot about Hymn to Tourach, I'm so disappointed in myself.

The comment about the interaction is totally true, I really wanted to try out the strategy of suicide black and didn't really think about interaction too much. I'll probably take your advice and add in some Dismember and some Inquisition of Kozilek, those are both pretty good and well within budget range for me.

Cling to Dust is pretty good, I'll try it out in place of Cremate, the reason I have those (and Aphotic Wisps) is because I just really love cantrip effects; mostly irrational, but I like them nonetheless.

Rouse is really fun as a combat trick with a Death's Shadow, but you might be right about it not having high enough impact on the game; maybe I'll try out Cruel Bargain instead. But, only a couple, I want to keep the CMC down, the other slots will likely be for interaction.

I really enjoy playing Village Rites just as a card, especially post combat with it being the only card in my hand, but yes, it is a really really bad topdeck. I might cut some number for other card draw, but if I ever do end up with Unearth in the main I will likely bump the number up again.

Speaking of Unearth, yes, the sideboard is more of a maybeboard; it's filled mostly with cards I enjoy playing in this strategy, or just don't have room for.

For more removal, I'll mix it up with an assortment of some of the cards you suggested.

Thanks so much for the suggestions Draly, I have virtually no experience with the legacy format so it's nice to have someone with insight to offer.

Draly on Munch

3 years ago

Always happy to see Sui-Black ! It used to be my deck of choice when I first started playing legacy competitively, it's a nice budget option for beginners. It has been a while since I last played it but I still have a good grasp of the format as a whole, so, if I may, I'd like to give you some advice. I think an ideal version deck can reach about 40% winrate when played perfectly (you probably won't win tournaments but you will not get destroyed either), but I also think yours may need a few tweaks. I'll try to be mindful of the budget constraint.

What strikes me when I look at your deck is the lack of interaction, one of the core components that makes Sui-Black viable in legacy is the access to efficient discard. If toughtseize is too expensive Duress and Inquisition of Kozilek can play the role just fine. I also don't think you should neglet Hymn to Tourach, on turn 2 it can sometimes be an instant win if for example you hit your opponents lands.

I'd get rid of Cremate and some number of Rouse and Aphotic Wisps, those cards simply don't do enough. Cremate, unless you know your meta is incredibly graveyard centric is too inconsenquential; yes it's card neutral but you still pay mana and tempo to essentially do nothing. If you still want to have access to this kind of effects for whatever reason I advise you to play Cling to Dust instead which can serve as card advantage later in the game. Regarding the other two, first you seem a little creature light to me, then they are an horrendous top deck, they open the door to 2-for-1s from your opponent and, even in the best case scenario, they're simply not that good. Rouse's kind of effects especially are usually not worth a card.

Similarly I don't really understand the presence of Village Rites... Your deck does not synergize with this kind of effects and I'm not sure you want to sac your already few creatures. If it's there to cash in targets of opposing removal, it's not really worth it. And, once again, terrible top deck. It's the kind of trap cards that feel good when they work but that we don't blame for losing because we usually don't think about what would have happened if we drew something else. You'd better be playing Sign in Blood (which also can double as a burn spell) or Cruel Bargain. Similarly I think Spoils of the Vault is somewhat of a trap too, but the card is both fun and unique enough that I won't complain :p

You could probably play more removal. There are the usual suspects Fatal Push, Dismember, Eliminate, Bloodchief's Thirst... But being mono-B you also have access to more niche options like Gatekeeper of Malakir, Geth's Verdict or even Spinning Darkness.

I won't touch on the SB too much, it needs to be tuned to your meta, but right now it looks more like a "maybe board" to me.

I hope you'll find this useful and I'd encourage you to take a look at this forum http://www.legacy-france.org/index.php?showtopic=13440&st=0 It's in french but decklists are in english and you may find interesting choices of cards in there. I especially like the first list, though it's a bit old and more on the controlling side than yours.

HalbrechtHalbrecht on Death in the Shadows

5 years ago

Hey, it was my pleasure! I was feeling stuck on my own decks, and yours was fun to distract myself with. XD

Yes, playstyle definitely accounts for it. I'd have to consciously choose to play like that! That said, have you never encountered the situation where you get 1-2 hits in with Phyresis, nearly killing them with Infect, and then they remove that creature + all enchantments? Then you cast a second creature (or maybe you already did, back when you had no more buffs to play), and start buffing him. But he's going to be starting fresh on their normal life total, drastically increasing the clock, whereas if that first creature had never been using Phyresis, you'd pick up right where you left off with the second creature. Granted, that's an edge case, but still, definitely plausible. Or is this deck really an "eggs all in one basket", "if the first creature gets knocked out, probably not gonna win" kind of deck? (That's not a criticism, by the way. I'm just trying to comprehend a playstyle that's foreign to me!)

I would agree that Unnatural Endurance is better than Thrull Retainer simply because the opponent doesn't see it coming. Why give them extra info?

Since you don't mind using your life as a resource (and since you're presumably fine with off-color cards like the Probe), why not replace Street Wraith with cards that'll actually give you a benefit for your life? There's Rouse from my version, which you used to have in your Maybeboard (that was a card I was NEVER sad to draw!), as well as the other 1-CMC Phyrexian spells — Gut Shot and Mutagenic Growth .

They don't replace themselves with a card like the Wraith or Probe do, so if that was the main point of those cards, then obviously they're not good. They're probably better in the version I posted that specifically included card draw.

One last "free" cycler I guess I should mention is Edge of Autumn . I say "free" because you can sac a tapped land you've already used that turn. But losing a land is sorta like paying a mana on your next turn, especially if you don't have a land drop to replace it, so.... not in love with the card. But it's an option if you're finding that you're running out of life TOO quickly. ;)

skochems on Blackfyre Infect (Modern Pauper)

6 years ago

Landonius thanks for the suggestion, Rouse certainly has a home in the sideboard as another free spell and it's on color

Landonius on Blackfyre Infect (Modern Pauper)

6 years ago

Rouse is a slightly worse Mutagenic Growth if you need more of that effect.