Vindictive Lich


Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Commander 2017 (C17) Rare

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Vindictive Lich

Creature — Zombie Wizard

When Vindictive Lich dies, choose one or more. Each mode must target a different player.

*Target opponent sacrifices a creature.

*Target opponent discards two cards.

*Target opponent loses 5 life.

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Vindictive Lich Discussion

Lokotor on Marchesa, The Black Rose - Primer

4 days ago


I mention Sidisi, Undead Vizier in my notable exclusions like you said it's a good fit if you don't have Demonic/Vampiric.

I'm not running Mana Confluence simply because I haven't felt like spending $10 on it. it would definitely be a good call.

I opted for Plaguecrafter over Vindictive Lich, but either or both are certainly fine to use.

For similar reasons as you mentioned I didn't bother with Disciple of Bolas plus, between various other card draw sources I haven't really needed him. Necropotence etc... plus at CMC4 he is competing with a lot of other cards.

Haste isn't super important for me since i've tried to build in a lot of ways to get counters outside of combat, but i think it would fit well if you were running more of a battle cruiser value deck.

Threaten and etc... is a popular way to build marchesa and definitely has a good support structure. I opted to go a different route though and as you can see i went a lot more aristocrats based. a low power big fatties battle cruiser meta will probably find a lot of success with an Act of Treason focused list though.

also, the Zealous Conscripts Infernal Tribute idea is a good one. nice catch.

let me know if you want any feedback on other cards, I've tested or considered cards in most sets that are released.

Bloodytrailz on Marchesa, The Black Rose - Primer

4 days ago

That makes sense for sure. I will personally be including Sidisi, Undead Vizier in lieu of not owning/wanting to buy the 25-40$ good tutors.

Another card that's on my definite include list that you don't have is Mana Confluence.. aka city of brass #2... it's odd to see one but not the pair of them.

I'm looking to play a bit heavier of a wizard influence utilizing metallic mimic to repeatedly sacrifice them. Including a couple extra wizards like Vindictive Lich and Disciple of Bolas. Lich helps with every facet of what we want to achieve, removal, discard or direct damage... on top of a decent sized beatstick with 4 power. Disciple can help to stabilize HP alongside basilisk collar, acts as a sacrifice outlet and draws cards. I'm a little iffier on the disciple because of it's "must" sacrifice, but I think it fights our gameplan well. Gaining life isn't necessarily always ideal, but sometimes you need to survive trample/evasive beatdown (which isn't uncommon in my meta... Arahbo cats deck + derevi -but not broken, low powerlevel- exist in my meta).

A couple other things I'm thinking about adding in are global haste enablers; Fervor and/or Anger to go alongside the lightning greaves.

I'm also looking to play a bit of the aristocrats subtheme but not heavily into it, I want to devote like no more than like 6-7 cards to it, so I'm being selective in these cards. Zealous Conscripts, Hostage Taker, Mark of Mutiny just to name a few.. i play in a low powerlevel, creature heavy meta so these effects will go a long way. (Alongside things like grave pact/dictate of erebos) ... Also Zealous Conscripts+Infernal Tribute act as a way to remove enchantments/artifacts by stealing and sacrificing them.

I'm still working on trimming my list down right now to an ideal 100, so I'm sure i'll be chiming in more as I progress through the list of cuts and figuring out what cards I want to use to fill my goals for the deck.

hkhssweiss on All Bow Before the True Queen

5 days ago

xander11 No problem!

I always feel that Dictate of Erebos was a tad too slow and the 5 cmc hurts quite a bit, Grave Pact is also quite hard to justify running sometimes. I would replace this card with Vindictive Lich.

While ramp is good, it can be sometimes a bit too slow and for value World Shaper out values Darksteel Ingot especially if your grave is full of lands.

Hmm Protean Hulk is a hard one as you want to find the right balance between reanimation targets as well as cmc curve. As much as I like Seasons Past it can be a doable swap. Either that or Whisper, Blood Liturgist.

I'm not too sure how your meta is like but I hope this helps!

xander11 on All Bow Before the True Queen

5 days ago

hkhssweiss Thanks for your help, I really like most of the cards you're suggesting but I'm not sure what to cut for them. I definitely want World Shaper and Protean Hulk Vindictive Lich is another great addition. Do you have suggestions for cards that don't do enough in the deck?

hkhssweiss on Need Help - Meren Upgrades?

5 days ago


What is your budget? I used to play Meren for a long time so here are a couple staple cards that can be considered :)

You can also add in more mana dorks so you can faster accelerate your game play, cards like Elvish Mystic, Llanowar Elves, Deathrite Shaman, Birds of Paradise, Elves of Deep Shadow, Fyndhorn Elves.

Hope that helps and feel free to ask questions!

Funky_bunch on bring Out your Deck!

1 week ago

hkhssweiss definitely gonna put in Vindictive Lich. fits in perfect haha

hkhssweiss on bring Out your Deck!

1 week ago


Some cards you can consider to making it more flavorful and threatening as well.

Hope that helps!

hkhssweiss on All Bow Before the True Queen

1 week ago

xander11 Since you checked out my deck, I'll check out yours :P

Some suggestions, you can use Body Snatcher as a pseudo Karmic Guide/Phyrexian Delver that can also swap cards from your hand while you have your big fatties in there, this card is a secret tech that not much people know about! xD

While I know your more creature heavy, there is good in using reanimation type cards like the cheap effect ones such as Animate Dead, Dance of the Dead, as well as Reanimate (Luckily it's getting reprinted in UMA so that $20 price tag doesn't stay for long). While this card may be broken, Protean Hulk does a lot for your build when you have to sac him to Vraska or Jarad, getting both value and efficiency. I can see there being loops with it going for infinite recursion, but that's if your all for going the combo route.

Some great cards to also run would be like Oversold Cemetery so you can keep a constant amount of creatures to be fodder and sac over and over again. With this in mind some recent cards like Vindictive Lich and Plaguecrafter get extremely fun! Hell's Caretaker is way too slow and there is a better option in Apprentice Necromancer. I'm also surprised you aren't running Living Death unless you run into a creature heavy meta than it's understandable. World Shaper is also one to think about as it is pure value, especially if you delve into a Dredge route as well.

Hope that gives you some feedback and feel free to ask any questions or advice!

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