Creature — Zombie Wizard
When Vindictive Lich dies, choose one or more. Each mode must target a different player.
*Target opponent sacrifices a creature.
*Target opponent discards two cards.
*Target opponent loses 5 life.
Vindictive Lich Discussion
2 days ago
Last_Laugh - Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate you taking the time to offer suggestions.
Metallic Mimic was something I thought about including, because at face value it seems like it would interact well with Marchesa. Problem is, the most common creature type I have is construct, and that’s less than 1/3 of my overall creature count. I could see it being very good situationally (i.e. I have a few constructs in my hand, or a way to get them) but I saw it sitting on the board not doing much otherwise.
Ashnod's Altar is good overall; I use it in a lot of my other decks. I went with Ironworks since most of my creatures are artifacts anyway. Probably worth including both to be more consistent, also might be worth looking at Phyrexian Altar as well.
Sage of Fables seems good for instant Marchesa protection. I currently just have Guildmages' Forum and Forge of Heroes as instant +1/+1 counters for Marchesa, so I'll take a look at finding room for another if I find I consistently need it.
Flayer, Sage, and Altar seems like a cute combo to use to end the game, and powerful, but also doesn’t fit with the artifact based Marchesa deck I was going for. Stacking modular counters is a sub goal of the deck, and I can’t put counters on Flayer or Sage without something like Phyrexian Scriptures or Mycosynth Lattice . Same with Vindictive Lich
3 days ago
Spark Double copying Marchesa for double Dethrone, the 2 Marchesas protect each other, and the copy enters with a counter immediately protecting itself.
Diabolic Intent is arguably better than Demonic Tutor here... run both.
Metallic Mimic fits your theme and you can either immediately protect Marchesa or abuse ETB/Death triggers every turn instead of once per round.
I'd also suggest Flayer of the Hatebound , Sage of Fables , and Ashnod's Altar for a great infinite damage/draw option (see paragraph below) and to give damage outside of combat. All these cards are good on their own in Marchesa. Sage immediately protects Marchesa (or abuse wizard etb/death like Vindictive Lich ), Altar is a free sac outlet that lets you dodge exile, tuck, etc. boardwipes, and Flayer with a free sac outlet is 36 damage (5+4 every turn) per round in a 4 player game.
Sac Flayer to Altar, float the from Altar, Flayer re-enters from undying and hits someone for 5, and then use the floating to remove Flayers counter and draw a card with Sage. Rinse and repeat until all opponents are certifiably dead.
1 week ago
I'll try to break things down by category. Spark Double needs a spot in the deck asap. Copy Marchesa for double Dethrone, the copies protect one another, and the copy immediately protects itself.
2 weeks ago
Ok, I've ran Marchesa for several years now albeit not theft focused. First thing is work on lowering your avg. cmc to 3.5 or less (preferably 3.3ish).
Spark Double copying Marchesa for double dethrone, the two copies protect one another, and the copy enters immediately protecting itself.
Sage of Fables / Metallic Mimic - Immediately protects Marchesa and they also allow you to abuse ETB/Death triggers on everyone's turn instead of once per round. I.e. Sower of Temptation , Vindictive Lich , etc.
Skullclamp is excellent here with all the sacrificing going on.
I'll try to suggest cuts if I get a minute but I'd skim off the top (Primordials etc). Feel free to check out my list for inspiration, it's one of the top rated Marchesa lists on this site. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa To Love Them
3 weeks ago
Finally had some time to give some insight!
Here is a list of possible cards that you can use depending on the route/direction you want it to go for!
- Viscera Seer
- Baleful Strix
- River Kelpie
- Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip
- Gilded Drake
- Blood Artist
- Zulaport Cutthroat
- Mayhem Devil
- Judith, the Scourge Diva
- Drana, Liberator of Malakir
- Gray Merchant of Asphodel
- Imperial Recruiter
- Gonti, Lord of Luxury
- Hostage Taker
- Vindictive Lich
- Zealous Conscripts
- Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
- Agent of Treachery
- Rune-Scarred Demon
- Vilis, Broker of Blood
- Sheoldred, Whispering One
- Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
- Praetor's Grasp
- Yawgmoth's Will
- Altar of Dementia
- Ashnod's Altar
- Cloudstone Curio
- Lim-Dul's Vault
- Faithless Looting
- Frantic Search
- Wheel of Fortune
- Dance of the Dead
- Animate Dead
- Wake the Dead
- Shallow Grave
- Corpse Dance
- Buried Alive
- Living Death
- Phyrexian Reclamation
Feel free to ask about any card choices! There is probably more cards but I can't think of any off the top of my head haha
4 weeks ago
I feel like you're a little too focused on creature theft and are missing out on a lot of gems that Marchesa has to take advantage of. The other problem with too much focus on theft is that decks that're light on creatures don't give you many options to further your own gameplan.
First, get Spark Double in here. Copy Marchesa for double dethrone, the 2 Marchesas protect each other, and the copy immediately protects itself... all of which are just as gross as they sound.
Flayer of the Hatebound with a sac outlet is 36 damage to any targets per round in a 4 player game.
This one's a bigger change. There's cards like Sage of Fables and Metallic Mimic that can be used to abuse ETB/Death triggers on everyone's turn like Vindictive Lich , Gray Merchant of Asphodel , Baleful Strix , etc. This is more the focus that my personal list has.
Feel free to check out my list for ideas. It's one of the top rated lists on this site and there's lots of discussion to look through for even more ideas. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Every Masochist Needs a Marchesa To Love Them
1 month ago
1 month ago
Zulaport Cutthroat is alot like blood artist. Dictate of Erebos will punish your opponents for you sac'ing dem creatures. Perhaps a Tattered Mummy . You can be a Rhianna's rude, rude boy and get Tree of Perdition . Grim Haruspex gets you draws and Scuttling Doom Engine smacks a homie for a biscuit. And one of my all time favs in my sack deck is Kokusho, the Evening Star and Vindictive Lich . Let me know what you think.
Vindictive Lich occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%