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| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
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| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Stonecloaker
Creature — Gargoyle
Flash (You may cast this spell at any time you could play an instant.)
Flying
When Stonecloaker enters the battlefield, return a creature you control to its owner's hand.
When Stonecloaker enters the battlefield, exile target card from a graveyard.
SaberTech on Ideas for an Ayli, Eternal …
3 weeks ago
I kind of see Ayli as more of a control oriented commander when compared to other potential WB aristocrats style commander options, although the need to gain life and have creatures to sac to her ability does cause a lot of overlap.
The first real hurdle is getting up to 50+ life. Running Ayli means that you opponents have even more reason to default to attacking you so that they can to keep you from using Ayli's removal ability. While being able to pick up life off of Blood Artist and extort type effects is useful, I think that it's worth finding ways to get big swings in life too. Tree of Perdition is one that comes to mind since it has 13 toughness for 4 mana right off the bat and you can increase its toughness even more if it stays on the board. Unhallowed Phalanx offers another high toughness for sac fodder. Serra Ascendant, Kokusho, the Evening Star, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, and Exsanguinate are also ways to gain a bunch of life. Angelic Chorus, Proper Burial, Rhox Faithmender, and Cleric Class have potential as well. Heliod's Intervention could be worth running as a removal option.
There are a bunch of options for token production but I thought that I would mention God-Eternal Oketra combined with Kor Skyfisher, Whitemane Lion, and possibly Stonecloaker as well. Oketra has reasonably high toughness and comes back quick if sacrificed for life. 4/4 tokens are good for sacrificing if you need to. The white bounce creatures can be used for repeatedly triggering your extort effects and other cards like Angelic Chorus, Oketra's Monument, and Cathars' Crusade.
Prava of the Steel Legion is another token producer that can pump all your little tokens into high-toughness sac fodder to gain life.
salzstange on
Leave me alone, pls leave me alone. fr tho,fk off.
1 year ago
Removed:
- Iona, Shield of Emeria
(To make Deck EDH legal)
Added - Stonecloaker
seshiro_of_the_orochi on
Air Force Fun!
1 year ago
This looks really fun, and you made many fine choices. There are still some cards you might consider:
Pride of the Clouds is the OG Skycat Sovereign. Looks like a great additional beatstick for you.
Stonecloaker is a good attacker, can recycle ETBs and annihilates any grave-based strategy on its own.
What's more, you look a little light on removal. Path to Exile and Condemn might be good additions. Also, how about some boardwipes?
multimedia on Cloudblazer or Inspiring Overseer?
2 years ago
Whitemane Lion and/or Stonecloaker and/or Venser, Shaper Savant to repeatedly trigger Chulane on opponent turns without needing a flash enabler. Venser can also be a wincon with Panharmonicon + Peregrine Drake, you have both.
Aether Channeler, choose from three different modes including draw a card, that's better than Inspiring Overseer. With 40 lands, Tatyova, Benthic Druid is a better 5 drop for draw/life than Cloudblazer. Cloudblazer needs a lot of extra mana/spell/effect to get repeatable value out of it, Tatyova just a land. You have Mulldrifter, don't need Cloudblazer.
TypicalTimmy on How do you build Karametra?
3 years ago
I had built my Karametra, God of Harvests with two main facets: The Landfall mechanic, and very massive creatures to put those lands to good use.
One clever trick you can do is loop Jeskai Barricade and Stonecloaker back and forth, bouncing each other. If you have an appropriate means of cost reduction, it becomes very efficient. For example, Oketra's Monument and Cloud Key would reduce their individual costs to a mere .
Each time one of these ETB, you bounce the other and tutor a Plains. If you have a means to have that Plains ETB untapped, or able to untap it, you can filter all of them from your library that turn. One method is Stone-Seeder Hierophant. Another is Amulet of Vigor.
These, in effect, allow you to cast Jeskai Barricade for just . Upon cast, you tutor a Plains. It ETB tapped and you either untap it with Amulet of Vigor or with Stone-Seeder Hierophant. From here, Jeskai Barricade ETB and you bounce Stonecloaker. Now, that Plains you just had ETB and got to untap can be tapped to add , allowing you to cast the Stonecloaker from your hand thanks to the cost reduction of Oketra's Monument and Cloud Key. From here, you tutor another Plains and repeat the whole process over again.
If you want lands that have , you can do this one of two ways:
- Use lands that have both subtypes, such as Arctic Treeline, Canopy Vista, Savannah, Scattered Groves or Temple Garden.
- You can also use mana filtering, such as Chromatic Lantern or Chromatic Orrery. There's also Joiner Adept, Mystic Monstrosity Flip and a few others. There's Overlaid Terrain if you can get it out quick enough with artifact sources, as to not damage your land base.
Filtering into will assist you in getting green mana, but it won't allow you to tutor Forests.
However, what this will do is you can tutor Forest, and use the Forest to pay for to continue the combo mentioned above. If you do this, you can tutor every single land in your entire library in one single turn.
Unfortunately, Selesnya doesn't exactly have a means to give global haste. You'd want to rely on something such as Akroma's Memorial or something else. It gets pretty tricky and difficult and you're better off to try and secure the win via alt-wincon.
But, this whole setup is extremely flimsy. Just one piece being removed blows the entire combo up. Your table may not see what's going on the first one or two times, but they will catch on and the moment Jeskai Barricade drops for the first time, it'll be hit with a furious wave of removal. Once this happens, your entire deck is dead in the water.
That's why I no longer play Karametra. She definitely is a Timmy deck because she absolutely wants tons and tons of creatures slamming the field as quickly as possible... but she becomes super flimsy. Imagine getting 9 or 10 lands out by Turn 6 or 7. You drop something massive like a Desolation Twin and it gets hit with the first wave of removal. What happens is you become the biggest threat at the table, even when you have literally nothing. The reason this mentality sinks in is because your Commander has Indestructible, so most players are unequipped to handle her. Since her removal isn't an option, they hit your boardstate, instead.
You become a magnet for removal and hate, and you spend the rest of the game "catching up" and "doing nothing".
In my personal experience, she isn't fun to play because of this very reason. But... if you'd want to build her, that's how I did.
- Landfall + that combo
...so Stonecloaker can bounce itself. No need to even have Jeskai Barricade. Jfc I am the biggest of dumb.
Still, you need cost reduction + filtering + land untapping... it's still a cumbersome problem and, like I said, one piece of removal blows the entire combo apart.
Grasshoppeh1 on
Karametra, Patron of Menageries [Rule 0 Companion]
3 years ago
Saw your reddit post, I don't reddit but I do lurk....
This is an unorganized brain dump of my thoughts on the deck. Pressed the playtest button above and goofed around with it a bit.
Anyone playing karametra knows how busted Whitemane Lion is. Thus I can make a logical guess that you purposely took it out. Mind you that for white+1 it is your most powerful ramp spell. Along with its friends Kor Skyfisher and Stonecloaker. I'm not saying you should run it, but maybe consider either that or stonecloaker if your play group has a lot of graveyard stuff happening.
One land to consider might be Mistveil Plains, I would only swap it in if you feel like you run out of threats.
37 lands might be too much? Maybe try 35-36 and see how you like it. You have karametra!
Lotus Cobra is another Tireless Provisioner which trigger off your general, I must suggest replacing Faeburrow Elder. That is partially preference and how you reason it is like this: if you feel like Tireless Provisioner is better than Faeburrow Elder it is time to swap in a cobra.
A tech swap might be Garruk's Uprising over Elemental Bond. For one if your trying to stompy them,, you should probably have more than 4 power. It also gives natural trample. The catch is it reduces your draw potential, which we can actually address.
How often does your Archangel of Thune go off? Do you feel its falling behind?
Cataclysmic Gearhulk is a potential alternate board wipe that gives you a creature. Tragic Arrogance does the same things, but you get to pick >:)
If you feel like your running out of ammo, Pokedex is worth trying out (Lifecrafter's Bestiary), Return of the Wildspeaker is a buff or draw, Garruk, Primal Hunter is draw or more creatures.
As for stompy bois, some I consider are Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (WARNING: High salt), Woodland Bellower (Tutor + body), Apex Devastator (goes brrrr). Shalai, Voice of Plenty (if your wide or get targeted a lot), Kaldra Compleat (high pressure, makes big thing bigger), Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar (Comes back and with a lot of lands hits hard), one of my favorite cards ever printed, "cute" swarm uhh... I mean Scute Swarm. (s)cute swarm goes nuts when you start dropping lands. Get the alt art for extra (s)cuteness.
Have fun!
Archon_Bel on
Athenian Legacy
4 years ago
Whitemane Lion was in one of the first few drafts I made for this deck along with Stonecloaker. I think my reasoning for not including either of them or other bounce creatures is because I'd rather have flicker effects like Restoration Angel, Ephemerate, or Soulherder to get more mileage out of my value creatures without having to recast them.
I don't think I have a copy of God-Eternal Oketra, but I think it'd be worth considering in the future.
