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Hey man, thanks for the upvote. I was actually pretty surprised when I got the notification; your deck was one of the decks I looked at while researching how to build and play Yawgmoth!
Let me know your thoughts on my deck and if there's anything you think it could use work on.
September 11, 2019 10:13 p.m.
I really like Coffin Queen and will definitely be putting her into the deck. I honestly don't really think I'll be using Aetherworks Marvel (mostly because I'm having a hard time cutting cards as it is), but I'll keep one around in case I ever get the urge to try it. Liliana is... well, not bad and I can see the value she'd potentially provide, but not a card I think I really need.
Of your cut suggestions, I'm only going to be cutting Doomed Dissenter. Fleshwrither has several targets that will give me value or even close out a game, and if I cut Myr Sire or Carrier Thrall I'm not really going to have as much sacrifice fodder as I'd like.
September 10, 2019 2:25 a.m.
Undying Evil is actually meant to be used more as a combo piece than as one time protection or recursion effect; it essentially functions as a one drop creature with undying since it can make any creature in the deck gain undying. It's especially fun with something like Wurmcoil Engine, though at that point it'd just be overkill lol.
Fleshwrither is a great card to have since it puts creatures directly onto the field. Good for searching out things like Endling , Sengir Autocrat , or Vindictive Vampire for value or to close games out. It actually technically won me a game today by placing Vindictive Vampire on the field, after which I gave it Phyresis and finished an excessively long game out of nowhere.
I think that my cuts will be Deathgreeter and Bontu's Monument . I'm really kind of iffy about cutting them, but I have three other Artist effects that actually ping opponents. The cost reduction from the artifact is nice, but most of my creatures aren't terribly expensive and I haven't really had many issues in having sufficient mana for my turns.
I'd definitely welcome more cut suggestions, though, from you or anyone else who wants to comment. Anyway, thanks for your advice!
September 8, 2019 10:43 p.m.
Been doing some thinking and am a little bit more convinced that I should try out some of the cards y'all mentioned.
I had several games today and got some pretty good results. I won a good portion of them, and even when I didn't the deck still performed well. I bet a decent contributing factor was the fact that Yawgmoth hardly ever got so much as threatened with removal; unsure if the people there just don't run removal or never drew into them in all the games we played, but either way it's likely that they'll eventually wisen up to my gameplan and start doing a little bit more to disrupt me aside from constantly swinging at me.
I'm thinking of adding Viscera Seer , Phyrexian Ghoul , Flesh-Eater Imp , Reassembling Skeleton , and Skullclamp . Other than Doomed Dissenter , Dread Presence (iffy tbh), and Blood for Bones , though, I'm not sure what else would be a bearable cut.
Unstable Obelisk provides some ramp early game and can eventually be used to remove some threatening noncreature permanent.
Ritual of the Machine did some surprisingly decent work in protecting me by placing threats on my side of the field and then using them to win (Atarka with Phyresis lmao).
Any other suggestions for what could be some likely candidates for replacement?
September 8, 2019 1:47 a.m.
Buckshot11 I do like that idea, especially with other cool stuff like Wurmcoil Engine or Sengir Autocrat. If Chainer's ever in danger of being removed, then I can just sacrifice every "nightmare" before he dies. However, I don't really have a lot of ways to offset the life payment cost; Yawgmoth's is manageable because it's only one life and essentially becomes free with an Artist on field.
It'll be something I'll think about and play around with now and then to see how it works, though, so thanks for the suggestion!
multimedia I'm glad you like it! Let's me know I did something right lol.
I've also felt that the deck heavily relies on Yawgmoth and would therefore be vulnerable to his absence. The deck was specifically built around him, after all, mostly because virtually every significant combo and interaction in the deck only really functions with him.
I can see I could still get some value with other sacrifice outlets like the one you and LadyZ mentioned with something like Pawn of Ulamog out, so I'll see about squeezing them in. I could part with at least one Doomed Dissenter style card and I don't think the deck will lose too much with Ritual of the Machine and Blood for Bones gone, but I'll see once I playtest some more. I got a couple of games in last night and found Yawgmoth was often overlooked, and if he was killed then it didn't take too much effort to bring him back.
As for Unstable Obelisk, other than mana ramp it's there to provide removal for things Black can't interact with like artifacts and enchanctments (mostly the latter).
Thanks for your post!
September 7, 2019 1:13 p.m.
I never felt too inclined to include Viscera Seer since if I'm sacrificing a creature, I would rather it be to Yawgmoth to draw. I think Warteye Witch or Shadows of the Past would work better in the deck since their scry would work in conjunction with Yawgmoth's draw.
Now, I did think about having other sacrifice outlets other than Yawgmoth, but he is ultimately the centerpiece of the deck. I don't think that sacrificing to other things will produce the right kind of value for me. Unfortunately, that means the deck can be easily hampered by constantly removing Yawgmoth from the equation, so that's something I've worried about.
Peat Bog's counters can be replenished with Yawgmoth's proliferate ability, and Meteor Golem is there to provide removal for more than just creatures (artifacts and enchantments), something Black unfortunately lacks in.
September 3, 2019 4:50 p.m.
Power level is the reason why I decided to run those creature stealing effects along with a couple of other beatsticks like Bontu the Glorified and Ob Nixilis, Unshackled . None of those cards are dedicated to combo'ing out and are there to interact with the rest of the board.
The place I plan on playing at had people running stuff like Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip and Niv-Mizzet Reborn . There was also one guy who said he wanted to build a Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves deck. I don't really know how powerful and competitive these commanders are, but regardless, how do you think the deck looks as of now? TappedOut says it's basically half and half between being competitive and casual, but I have no idea how it determines that and if it's reliable.
September 2, 2019 6:28 p.m.
I remember trying to build a deck like this once. I think Dragon Tempest would be a good inclusion in this deck since it works for any creature with flying, not just dragons.
For your sacrifice theme, I recommend Skirsdag High Priest and Priest of Forgotten Gods . Weaponcraft Enthusiast is a good and cheap fodder producer in addition to the ones mentioned by Funkydiscogod.
September 2, 2019 4:27 p.m.
RNR_Gaming I immediately thought of proxying right after I posted my previous comment lol. I'll start doing that once I find a group to settle down in, that way it can be tuned according to the meta there.
I chose to use Blood for Bones because I already owned the card and because I thought it would work well in the deck by acting as a kind of pseudo- Victimize . Since I'll be sacrificing a lot of creatures and occasionally discarding to proliferate or using Buried Alive , I can revive a higher costed creature and then retrieve a cheaper one to cast. It's something I think would also work great with Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder or even just a Genesis Chamber on the field.
September 2, 2019 4:13 p.m.
Joe_Ken_ That's a pretty neat combo; the cards you listed aren't too expensive, but I'm admittedly not a fan of Phyrexian Altar's price. I'll definitely jot these cards down, though, so thanks for the suggestion! Is there anything you think I should cut to make room for them?
September 2, 2019 3:35 p.m.
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