Creature — Human Wizard


When Dreamstealer deals combat damage to a player, that player discards that many cards.

Eternalize (, Exile this card from your graveyard: Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's 4/4 black Zombie Human Wizard with no mana cost. Eternalize only as a sorcery.)

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Dreamstealer Discussion

Blackgate on Black Lantern (Tergrid menace/midrange)

4 months ago

Hello droslag, thanks for the feedback! They are both great menace cards thank you! I think both those cards would be great in a zombie menace deck to make the most use of their special abilities. Combine them with Graf Harvest and that would be a good foundation! That being said adding Plague Belcher and Relentless Dead is something I will play test!

I am also considering swapping out Hunted Nightmare for 3 copies of Dreamstealer and swapping out Josu Vess, Lich Knight for Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip to include a discard strategy to the main deck.

whatqwerty on Cat Chariot and Embalm/eternalize

5 months ago

also, Dreamstealer could be a good card in control matchups if needed

MLS91 on Tergrid Group Thug Discard Stax

6 months ago


I’m glad I could offer you a good card for the build. I’m surprised to not see most Tergrid builds running Ill-Gotten Gains . I also appraised Dreamstealer in the same light you do, I guess it just got to “cute” for me at some point. Do keep me up to date on your interactions with Dream Devourer I do so want him to be good and not overlooking your interactions, the card also comes off to me as “cute” in my build. So perhaps you have the design space for his inclusion in your build, mayhaps I’m just not utilizing it to its full potential

SufferFromEDHD on Tergrid Group Thug Discard Stax

6 months ago

MLS91 this list was my Seizan, Perverter of Truth for years. Just recently switched to the clear upgrade in Tergrid.

Quickly glancing at your list and I see you have more of a stax/sacrifice theme where as my focus is stax/discard.

Dreamstealer is lackluster but was always discard fodder/value. Ill-Gotten Gains is a blast from the past that is a clear upgrade. Thanks for the suggestion.

I'm going to have to disagree with your Dream Devourer assessment. So far in testing its role is value/card protection and it does it well. For 2 we are able to filter/protect/set up future plays circumventing the noninteractive board state this deck creates.

MLS91 on Tergrid Group Thug Discard Stax

6 months ago

I ended up cutting Dream Devourer from my tergid build ( Relics of Fear ). I found it to be to work around and and set upish, it's not the kind of "RAMP" you may think it is. Idk I encourage you to playlets with it first but that's just my insight.

Dreamstealer ended up being to slow for me

have you thought about Ill-Gotten Gains ?

MLS91 on Crippling Fear

6 months ago


I'm thinking of just cutting the Glacial Chasm for a Swamp , i hasn't saved me in the one set of three games, and I don't really think that i'll truly be needing it in the future. it was there for assuming the role of archenemy, can be not paid sac'd then replayed with Crucible of Worlds creating a small lock of sorts.

My friend was the one that suggested Oblivion Sower , I like the idea of ripping lands with it, as well as it's awkward 5/8 body. I do think its a little though and reaching into the casual realm which isn't really what im looking to do.

Bitter Ordeal can technically combo with the Lotus Petal loop and exile everyones Libraries(also less color intensive), but again, i'm looking at dream land. but it sounds really nice!

After some deliberation here's what I've come to:

Minus Dreamstealer plus Opposition Agent

Why: better value, answers answers

Minus Glacial Chasm plus Swamp

Why: need access to more colored mana, land count ins fine. Chasm doesn't currently do anything and doesn't tap for mana

Minus Metalworker plus Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire

Why: Metalworker is a good card, the idea pf it still works for the deck, but it requires to much set up, Varragoth i'm hoping "gets us there" also makes the deck "possibly"

MLS91 on Crippling Fear

6 months ago

I really like the suggestion of " Bitter Ordeal ", I see the "gravestorm" (IM VERY INTRIGUED). I feel more more comfortable with the " Sadistic Sacrament ", I guess what I'm seeing is :

3for3/10for15 of Sadistic Sacrament VS. 3for1...maybe more? Bitter Ordeal


I got a game in against a casually optimized Torbran.

L2 W1

What I learned

Land count good, need better access to colored mana (would have resulted in a L1 W2 record)

Memory Jar is as quoted " .....devastating, breaking my back..."

the emotions of response I hoped achieved from foes has been realized.

+ Oblivion Sower - Syr Konrad, the Grim

Why: stealing lands from exile seems great, wrks with Memory Jar (rip lands from hand), works with Soul-Guide Lantern


CUT - Dreamstealer ADD - Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire

Why: Dreamstealer felt "cute" not impactful, preforms poorly overall as there are "better things to be doing". Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire on the other hands has a good body, deathtouch, and tutors. seems like a more impactful cards overall. Maybe add Opposition Agent instead?

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