Drowner Initiate

Creature — Merfolk Wizard

Whenever a player casts a blue spell, you may pay {{1}}. If you do, target player puts the top two cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (18)

Pickachu202 on Dimir Mill

3 years ago

What do you think of recursive mill effects? Maybe some on creatures to help conspire Memory Sluice. Off the top I know: Drowner Initiate and Iceberg Cancrix.

Snake_Oil on Getting my PP out - Mono U - Mill with Persistence

4 years ago

I'd bump up the Phantasms to a full playset, same with Counterspell.

Something to consider with Mystic Sanctuary is Deprive -- It's an effective combo for pauper, being able to have a counterspell in your hand each turn. With that in mind, you can then cut the Didn't Say Please and get the Chronic Flooding in -- Mills for the exact same amount and occurs more often. I love the curse tech, but running a full set of Flooding might work better, though you could always run both.

Tome Scour seems a good pick as a mill 5 for 1 blue mana, though you could also use Thought Scour for mill plus draw -- I'd be inclined to then cut the Mind Sculpts and get some card draw in -- Set of Opt or Accumulated Knowledge. You can have all the mill in the world, but it means nothing if you're topdecking to do it.

If you wanted to go all-in on Sanctuary, you could side a couple of Tragic Lesson just in case.

Are the automatons just a quick and easy one drop? You might get more from a set of Faerie Seer / Faerie Miscreant / Sage of Epityr or even something like a set of Screeching Sliver or Drowner Initiate

That Rotcrown Ghoul seems nice, but if you need a bit of muscle to back up your draw, check out Makeshift Mauler or Stitched Drake -- They don't mill your opponent, but you have enough of that already for a side-option. Sometimes you need a bit of bulk!

dingusdingo on None

4 years ago

Bloodwater Entity is extremely useful here. Its on legs so you can flicker it or copy it. Other topdeck manipulation creatures Omenspeaker Sage Owl Spire Owl Sage of Epityr Augury Owl

Cards that can abuse topdeck being known Psychic Battle Chaos Warp Spark of Creativity Erratic Explosion Prophetic Flamespeaker Abbot of Keral Keep Augur of Bolas Dark-Dweller Oracle Experimental Frenzy

Cards that let you see topdeck Lantern of Insight Goblin Spy Future Sight Magus of the Future

Cathartic Adept and similar mill effects can help you move past undesirable topdeck cards. Gives control when you can see enemy topdecks Pyxis of Pandemonium Ghoulcaller's Bell Drowner Initiate Hedron Crab Jace's Erasure Drowned Secrets Codex Shredder

If you're looking for hard and fast deck stacking, check out Brainstorm Ponder Preordain Serum Visions Index Mystic Speculation Opt Portent Spy Network Trickery Charm Ancestral Knowledge Contingency Plan Foreshadow Information Dealer Omen Predict Bamboozle Long-Term Plans Second Sight

If you're looking for combo potential, Memory Lapse is pretty filthy with putting your spell from hand to top of library, and it raises your storm QUITE A BIT. Hinder can do similar tricks.

Desertrose92 on I Talk to the Wind

4 years ago

Several of your combo pieces do not synergie well with Adeliz, the Cinder Wind 's ability. E.g. Ghitu Journeymage is almost only useful during the combo. Outside of it they are not evasive enough to get past opponents' creatures to reliably make use of the commander's +1/+1s. Wizards such as Neurok Invisimancer or Thalakos Seer can make the +1/+1s count every turn, and are instagibs once you are comboing off.

Also, why no Stonybrook Banneret ? It fits both perfectly in a wizard tribe deck and synergies with the commander's abilities due to Islandwalk well.

Drowner Initiate and Ghitu Journeymage are two more cards I would cut. Instead I would add Merchant of Secrets , it's much more useful during regular play and almost as useful during the combo.

Two other cards that fit well within this deck are Compulsive Research and Deep Analysis . Once you are comboing with two Archaeomancer / Izzet Chronarch / Salvager of Secrets / Scrivener you can mill your opponents with those two cards.

Relic of Progenitus can shot yourself in the foot if you are exiling a card you still need from your own graveyard. An possible alternative is Tormod's Crypt .

hydrothermia on Need help reworking it

5 years ago

Welcome to Tapped Out!

• From what I gather is that you're going for a mill intensive B/U(Dimir) deck?
• How cheap(budget) are we talking about?

Thought Scour | Tome Scour | Horrifying Revelation | Hedron Crab | Fraying Sanity | Drowner Initiate | Dimir Charm | Dream Twist | Compelling Argument | Cathartic Adept | Breaking // Entering | Jace's Erasure | Memory Erosion | Memory Sluice | Mind Funeral | Nemesis of Reason

These are all under $10, I would also invest in having 3 to 4 copies of a number of these.

LuxCannonator on Fraying Sanity Mill Deck

5 years ago

I agree with TheVectornaut.

You could also utilize Evanescent Intellect on the Hedron Crab for the turns where you dont have any interaction(Or are sitting on an Archive Trap). Drowner Initiate would also be a pretty solid choice.

IWasLeft2Die on Memory Loss

6 years ago

Yeah I agree with Phil a decent bit.

The bident of Thassa and Thassa themselves don't seem to help well enough to make them worth including. Muddle the Mixture could be a good counterspell card honestly. If not that then maybe add counterspell straightup. Mindsculpt is meh as well. Dream Twist could work too. Jace's Erasure could be good since you can draw some. Sanity Grinding Could be good.Judge's Familiar or Drowner Initiate are better than the fairy I think. The fairy doesn't add much really honestly.

Arbosa on Monoblue Mill Deck

6 years ago

Ok, my comment got destroyed, sorry. Lemme try that again. You should run Archive Trap no matter what, maybe splash back for Glimpse the Unthinkable , Dimir Doppelganger , Nemesis of Reason , Oona, Queen of the Fae . Mind Funeral

Also maybe: Drowner Initiate Archmage Ascension Forced Fruition Howling Mine treasure hunt