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Nephalia Drownyard Discussion
1 day ago
chirz2792 I Actually have Nephalia Drownyard in there. No idea why its not on this list. I like Consecrated Sphinx. My friends like to draw a lot. Does your hand size get a little out of control with that? Maybe Rhystic Study would be better.
1 month ago
There are two main ways of playing mill:
Mill 'Blitz': in this deck, you try to mill your opponent as quickly as possible with efficient cards like Glimpse the Unthinkable and Archive Trap. This deck is the most common and usually the most effective - mill the opponent before they mill you
Aggro Mill (a.k.a 'Millgro'): This deck is more similar to yours, using powerful creatures like consuming abberation and Jace's Phantasm as a primary win condition. This is often less effective but more fun to play (see my deck U/B Millgro (need help)).
Your deck is currently somewhere between these two decks - I recommend you choose 1 win condition and build more towards that. I always try to include Jace's Phantasm because a 5/5 flyer for 1 mana on turn 2 or 3 is stupid.
Regarding your current deck, your mana curve needs some SERIOUS reworking. It should ideally be a slide shape (highest at 1 and 2, dipping and then going up a bit at 5), otherwise, you'll find yourself doing nothing until turns 4 or 5. Phenax, God of Deception and Lazav, Dimir Mastermind are ok, but 4 of each is WAY too much - you want only 1 or 2 at most, if any.
Hero's Downfall is excellent in Standard as it's pretty much the only good removal available. However, in modern, cheaper removal like Go for the Throat and Abrupt Decay are preferred. Modern is a very fast format overall - that's exactly why you want a really fast deck.
Other cards to consider:
1 month ago
My experience playing control mostly comes from a constructed format perspective, but I'll give my general take and you can make what you want of it.
In general, control decks want to run ~25 lands so that they can hit every land drop. They draw so many cards that this doesn't hurt the consistency of the deck. However, you're only one color so 22-24 should be fine.
In my opinion, Mind Control-effects are weak. They are dependent on what your opponent is running, so why not run your own bomb for the same cost? Most control decks I've piloted rarely run more than seven creatures, and that's a stretch. I'd cut your creatures to the ones that outright win the game as soon as they hit (given that your deck keeps the board clear- which is should). Some cards that come to mind are Wurmcoil Engine, Batterskull, and AEtherling. While the first two are not budget options, they create an unmatched power that needs to be dealt with.
Another part of control that I've found necessary is to wipe the board- if you want to stick with mono blue, Cyclonic Rift is an amazing card that puts you ahead. I might suggest going Azorius (blue white) though, gaining you access to powerful removal, board wipes, and other finishers. Wrath of God and Supreme Verdict come to mind. Path to Exile and Swords to Plowshares are also great removal for the creatures that slip though. If you decide to ever break out of the budget constriction, Celestial Colonnade is one of the best finishers for blue white control as it doesn't take up a slot for removal or countermagic.
Another option is Dimir (blue black), which gives you a milling alternate win condition in Nephalia Drownyard. You could go to Esper (white blue black), but that brings an expensive land base along with it.
To summarize, cut your creatures to the ones that end games. Fill the rest of your deck with removal, countermagic, and a relatively high land count (25 for two color, 22-23 for one color). Again, these are just my suggestions as a pilot of both a mono blue Tron deck and an Azorius control deck. Feel free to check either out for ideas:
Bouncy Hooters -- Azorius control (somewhat janky)
1 month ago
My deck started out a lot like this. A little bit of mill, some forced draw and discard pieces and a pinch of reanimation. I gradually streamlined towards a combo deck and eventually changing the commander toOona, Queen of the Fae. This looks pretty fun to play but a bit too slow for multiplayer.
Are you against infinite loops? If not, Mindcrank and Bloodchief Ascension deserve a slot here. I'd also get rid of the tap lands, Crypt of Agadeem, Nephalia Drownyard Deserted Temple and Thespian's Stage and go with more fetches.
1 month ago
Mostly budget reasons.
Like you may have read in previous comments, this deck is really just gathering dust. I switched to planning an Esper Teachings deck which I'm planning on buying and constructing soon, which is much cheaper and more effective. This deck is already $350, and that's a lot more expensive than a lot of decks that are a lot more effective than this.
Unfortunately, this type of deck just isn't viable in Modern like it was in Standard with Ben Stark while cards like Tectonic Edge are around, and still being run in Modern control decks such as UWR. It's a shame, because it's a really fun deck to build and pilot.
But the fact that there's mill at all in this deck is a problem, actually. The whole point of this archetype is to free up space in your deck for counters, removal and draw spells (and other control fixings) by having 4 of your lands become your win conditions. Then, you control your opponent until you're able to deck them out at the end of their turn with quick activations of Nephalia Drownyard for 9 or 12 cards a turn. But if your lands can't be effective because there's too much removal, you have to add mill, and cut control, which entirely destroy's the foundation of this deck.
1 month ago
|Avg. draft pick||2.53|
|Avg. cube pick||13.47|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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