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Creature — Elf Druid
Tap: Add (Green) to your mana pool.
(2), Sacrifice Heart Warden: Draw a card.
Heart Warden Discussion
3 weeks ago
$20ish Budget way to make Yisan very fast:
Add in Arbor Elf , Fyndhorn Elves , Wirewood Symbiote , Seeker of Skybreak , Temur Sabertooth , Priest of Titania , Elvish Archdruid , Boreal Druid , Devoted Druid , Great Oak Guardian , Autumn's Veil , Nature's Claim , Natural State , Caustic Caterpillar , Reclamation Sage , Desert Twister , Copperhorn Scout , Wood Elves , Somberwald Stag , Manglehorn , Marwyn, the Nurturer , Rishkar, Peema Renegade , Leaf Gilder , Heart Warden , Fyndhorn Elder
Drop out Taunting Elf , Verdant Force , Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger , Wild Beastmaster , Worldspine Wurm , Pathbreaker Ibex , Mycoloth , Kamahl, Fist of Krosa , Gyre Sage , Giant Adephage , Elvish Piper , Cultivator of Blades , Bramble Elemental , Avenger of Zendikar , Tooth and Nail , See the Unwritten , Triumph of the Hordes , Overrun , Overwhelming Stampede , Overrun , Genesis Wave , Explosive Vegetation , Zendikar Resurgent , Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip, Umbral Mantle , Lifecrafter's Bestiary
Total of 26 swaps.
The switches lists speed the deck up and make it win through an easy and efficient combo, all fetchable by Yisan. The combo uses Great Oak Guardian , Temur Sabertooth , and Wirewood Symbiote . With these and enough mana producing creatures, you get infinitely large creatures or with 1 more mana, infinitely large creatures and infinite mana, and untaps which can be put into Yisan to fetch Caterhoof and give the team trample.
All together, the deck will also run enough early-game interaction like Caustic Caterpillar , Manglehorn , Reclamation Sage , Natural State , Nature's Claim , the already run Lignify and Acidic Slime , and catch-alls like Desert Twister and Yisan fetchables like Somberwald Stag .
How does this sound?
5 months ago
What are you guys thinking about the spoiled Beast Whisperer? I think about it as an upgrade for the Vizier of the Menagerie, because you don't rely on your Heart Warden to draw the deck. Any other thoughts on that topic?
5 months ago
Armed // Dangerous another CMC2 Double Strike, $0.21. Downside is it's Sorcery.
Archetype of Aggression, gives all your creatures Trample, $0.39. 6 ground + 4 flying (partial evasion) don't have trample, thats 1/2 your available hitters, including 1 infect.
Gruul Signet, CMC2 Rock, $0.30.
Farseek, CMC2 Ramp!!, $0.27.
Flameblast Dragon won't get his doubled. Timing is off.
Slagstorm scary because it wipes out the dorks, but I understand the thinking, with Cats/Snakes/Vampires.
Arbor Elf, CMC1 Dork, $0.26.
Beastcaller Savant, CMC2, But he has Haste, $0.40 though.
Heart Warden, annoying at CMC2, but can draw a card if late in the game if he's a dead draw, $0.20. Modular is sometimes nice, especially in longer games.
Explore might work pretty well with 40 lands, and it draws a card, so maintains your card-advantage and ramp advantage. I also feel you have quite a bit (too many) lands with all the additional ramp/dorks you have? Might try 38 instead.
Thunderfoot Baloth $1.69, but has trample, with Xenagos is 14 Trample, and gives all other creatures Trample. The best of the Trample enablers mentioned for sure.
Artisan of Kozilek he is 10/9 (20/19 with Xenagos), Returns a creature from your graveyard to the battlefield (not hand), and has Annihilator 2 (Opponent sacrifices 2 permanents, with haste from Xenagos) for $0.43. I have lots of this guy, I'll bring you one.
Maybe with some shuffling of mana sources you can free up cash for Malignus, but he's quite expensive. Tough for budget.
Phyrexian Hydra another Infect guy. Makes it easier to kill 3 players.
Khenra Charioteer more trample, hes a 3/3 so he's not shabby for CMC3. Probably don't need that much anyway.
Talisman of Impulse best non- non- mana source available for $0.33.
Explosive Vegetation is good, but $0.92 and CMC4, I'm not sure. Might look for another lower CMC one to ramp a little faster for that $. Go a bit faster.
I haven't seen this one work yet, See the Unwritten and at $0.82, I'd probably just draw another creature like a Artisan of Kozilek. If you get lucky and the stars align, maybe you get 2, but one might be an Elf. I'd rather just draw another key creature, instead of the randomness. If it was CMC5 or CMC4 and casting a CMC8 maybe, but it's CMC6 probably casting a CMC6 or lower (based on probability, I can calculate it when I have some more time)
Living Hive is in Main and Maybeboard.
I only like Momentous Fall (too expensive $), Deus of Calamity (enables Xenagos), Kavu Predator could be interesting in our Pod (vs cats/vamps anyway). Malignus if you can budget him in. Steel Hellkite good utility again CMC0 Snakes/Vampires for example. Thunderfoot Baloth.
Don't like anything else there.
I think, less lands -2 perhaps, cheaper ramp (and maybe 1 more), 1 more creature (infect guy preferably), reallocate some cash to make sure each creature is a finisher, like Avatar of Fury is kind of blah, if you can cast for 2 he's ok, but what you doing with the other mana that turn anyway, would rather pay the 6 for a finisher. Siege Dragon feels a little underpowered too, but can board wipe (cats/vamps/snakes), would rather use Steel Hellkite instead, better control, lower CMC.
Living Hive feels small for CMC8! Wtf, not sure what your doing with the 1/1 insects, that don't even fly.
That's about all I have for now +1.
5 months ago
Final Parting is a combo card, imagine stuffing a Triskelion in the yard and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed in hand, then use Meren to bring back the Triskelion, so you get both cards. Any other two-card combo in which at least one is a creature can be used in this way, and can fetch the whole combo with one card.
Fauna Shaman is actually just gravy (get it, since you use the grave!) value with this deck, and can be used to discard cards, tutor, it has cool lines with Eternal Witness, The Gitrog Monster & Ramunap Excavator, Greenwarden of Murasa, and other creatures you have in the deck.
I'd add in more ramp, Blood Pet could be a fun gimmick, but isn't really too powerful, really, I'd like to make small switches like Deathcap Cultivator for Birds of Paradise, and Thought Vessel for Fellwar Stone, or things in that realm. Heart Warden is really cool too.
6 months ago
It's worth adding as well, you can come across cards that can kill two birds with one stone. These are judgement call cards typically as they will usually be expesnive as balls mana wise. That or they will be rather niche. But in some circumstances, niche is good.
For example, I run Heart Warden in my Saffi Eriksdotter deck. While warden is both a suboptimal dork (2 drop that only produces G - not the worst dork in the world but Elvish Mystic would be better) as well as expensive card advantage (If you want the card the same turn you play it you're paying 4 mana), it generates really good value in a graveyard recursion deck. as But as I said, judgement call.
Same goes for stuff like Mystic Confluence. It's a great replacement for Jace's Ingenuity, but I would treat it as that rather than a counterspell. It can very easily be, but it comes down to how you classify the card.
8 months ago
That said, I've been thinking hard about Spellseeker, but I don't think I will end up playing it in this list, mainly due to its expensive mana cost. Compared to Merchant Scroll, it's 4 vs 3 mana to find a hack. While this might not sound significant, this is a pretty important number, as the turn after we play Momir Vig, Simic Visionary we typically have about 5, sometimes 6 mana. A 3 mana hack can be cast, along with a 1cmc green creature, and finally Quirion Ranger, and fully start off a chain. However, Spellseeker costs 1 more and wouldn't be able to be used for this purpose.
There's also the idea that Heart Warden is more useful outside of combo turn than it seems. We need a certain density of 2 mana ramp, and if it wasn't Heart Warden it might end up being something like Voyaging Satyr.
This is sort of out of character for me, but for once, I think that freeing slots might not be favorable, since it will decrease the quality of the slot that is left. However, I'd certainly encourage people to explore and test this out even more, since Spellseeker has a lot of interesting facets which I've most likely missed. As it stands, I like the "more, but more useful" setup we have with our combo slots, as opposed to "fewer, but less useful". Thanks for your really thought-out comment, though! I haven't thought about it from the perspective of replacing Merchant Scroll before.
8 months ago
I wasn't the most clear with my first post. I'm not suggesting switching Heart Warden for Spellseeker. It would more so be a replacement for Merchant Scroll. I understand all the redundancy and combos that Heart Warden provides. Merchant Scroll on the other hand is something to think about, as I already said, has the sole advantage of getting Force of Will.
8 months ago
How do you feel about Spellseeker? It can be a interchangeable piece for the Winds of Rebuke combo in our end game, taking the place of Heart Warden with the downsides of not drawing our whole deck, and we can't use it to start a tutor chain. This gets around draw hate cards at the expense of search hate cards. Spellseeker on the upside does search for all of our instant and sorceries, aside from Force of Will, so it can be used to find any of our Hacks to start a chain. Another way to look at it is that Spellseeker is a reusable Merchant Scroll.
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