Creature — Human Wizard
Tap: Target creature other than Sorceress Queen becomes 0/2 until end of turn.
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|Fifth Edition (5ED)||Rare|
|Fourth Edition (4ED)||Rare|
|4th Edition Foreign Black Border (4EDFBB)||Rare|
|Revised Edition (3ED)||Rare|
|Revised Foreign Black Border (3EDFBB)||Rare|
|Arabian Nights (ARN)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Sorceress Queen Discussion
4 months ago
I really want to put in some ways to make sure my creatures have 1 or 0 power when they die (I currently have 6 creatures that don't fit Shirei's requirement -- Crypt Ghast, Grim Haruspex, Midnight Reaper, Pawn of Ulamog, Phyrexian Plaguelord, and Sifter of Skulls). I was thinking at first that I should do -1/-1 effects like Phyrexian Plaguelord, but there aren't really enough that make the cut beyond that one. After that I found Sorceress Queen, which seemed promising, but again, there aren't very many effects like her. Any suggestions?
5 months ago
The Oracle text specifically says:
- : Target creature other than Sorceress Queen has base power and toughness 0/2 until end of turn.
This means the power and toughness printed on the card are treated as being 0/2, regardless of counters on the creature.
Either way, though, cards like Sorceress Queen that modify power and toughness do not interact with counters unless they specifically say so. Just as Giant Growth doesn't put counters on a creature, only make its power and toughness bigger, so do cards like the Queen or Turn to Frog alter the printed numbers and ignore the counters. (The counters would continue to modify the changed power and toughness, so something changed by Sorceress Queen that had a +1/+1 counter on it would end up as a 1/3 until the Queen's effect wore off.)
A card that would add or remove counters would say as much, like both halves of Give / Take.
5 months ago
Would Sorceress Queen remove +1/+1 or -1/-1 counters on creatures because it makes them a 0/2 until end of turn?
7 months ago
Awesome thread. Please keep these going.
8 months ago
Cool deck! You might like these: Cauldron of Souls , Syr Konrad, the Grim , Putrid Goblin , Grim Haruspex , Sorceress Queen , Dross Scorpion , Leaden Myr , Plague Myr , Manakin , Hedron Crawler , Gleaming Barrier , Sifter of Skulls , Myr Moonvessel
1 year ago
Ummm....calm the fuck down dude, holy shit.
You clearly don't know how useful Shirei's ability actually is. You do realize you can use cards like Fume Spitter every single turn, right? You can Heap Doll every single turn to keep anyone else from having a graveyard? You do realize that Workhorse is a ramp spell, right? Oh, and, do excuse me for running Damnation when I'm already running Necropotence .
Sorceress Queen isn't a hate piece. It's so that I can recur guys in my deck that are bigger than 1 power. Like, say, Harvester of Souls , who can draw me, say, 5 cards each turn. Not each of my turns, each turn. While I'm also applying stax effects to people with the creatures I'm sacrificing.
Mindslaver is a fine wincon when the game is already locked down. There's no rush to cast it, and it can also save you from dying earlier.
Please stop bashing cards you've never actually played with. You clearly took one look at the list, gave no thought to any of the synergies involved, saw some apparently janky cards, and concluded that it was bad. Good job.
Needless to say, I'm pretty insulted. There are far worse commanders in tier 3.
1 year ago
Oh, you want examples? Heap Doll is the type of stuff this deck runs. 1 mana watses of a card that only occasionally could give value with the 5 mana commander with no immediate impact on the board.
Oh, but at least the numerous 1 mana do nothings are at least only 1 mana, right? Workhorse has something to show you.
Do you want to actually know what 'control' it has? No countermagic in mono-black (Unless Dash Hopes or Withering Boon are going be your fancy) so it has to have serious removal, yep, this list runs all of the cEDH classics like Fume Spitter , the mana efficient card draw in the form of Harvester of Souls , yep, and hate pieces like Sorceress Queen .
Also, Tasigur, as Mighty_Darknut said does have some very efficient interactions, but I am still going to stick by my word that Divergent Control is the best permission control list in the format, a link is at BUGR Divergent Control. It uses Notion Thief and Whirlpool Warrior as its combo target, and I while am more a fan of Kiki-Exarch it it's place, it does do work.
Other powerful permission control lists are Tasigur, GAAIV, Baral, and Rashmi.
1 year ago
- Aether Poisoner
- Deathspore Thallid
- Doomed Dissenter
- Marionette Master
- Marsh Flitter
- Myr Propagator
- Myr Sire
- Pitiless Plunderer
- Skirk Ridge Exhumer
- Skirsdag High Priest
These are all token generators I found that don't need any assistance but there are other things to think about. That Cmdr says "whenever a creature with power 1 or less dies return it to play under YOUR control". So this is where you can get creative and simply make your opponents creatures power 1 or less and kill them to bring them back to play under YOUR control.
So right away the first thing I think of is how can we turn your Cmdr into a Grave Betrayal! So cool.
- Sorceress Queen
- Island of Wak-Wak
- Sudden Spoiling
- Battle at the Bridge
- Death Wind
- Kagemaro's Clutch
- Liliana of the Dark Realms
- Nightmarish End
- Nightshade Seer
- Toxic Deluge
- Black Sun's Zenith
I'm sure this is plenty for now I hope this helps