Angelheart Vial

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Custom Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Rise of the Eldrazi (ROE) Rare

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Angelheart Vial

Artifact

Whenever you're dealt damage, you may put that many charge counters on Angelheart Vial.

{{2}}, Tap, Remove four charge counters from Angelheart Vial: You gain 2 life and draw a card.

Angelheart Vial Discussion

epartica on Angels Brought The Apocalypse

7 months ago

Yes I've been playing this deck every chance I get! Basically every up-date I've done on this deck has been because after play testing it and realizing what I need to change or just new cards I have acquired. So right now I currently own all these cards expect some of the special lands. I just order them on tcgplayer. Mistveil Plains and Emeria, The Sky Ruin is a must for me, however I'm wondering if having to many special lands is going to be a bad thing.

heyzeus_ I see your point on Lumbering Battlement where it would just be better for me to drop an angel rather using it only for board wipe protections, so instead I replaced it with Steelshaper's Gift . I also swapped Angelheart Vial for Coercive Portal because it grants me two things which is the chance to draw or a board wipe which is what i'm after. None of my friends take extra turns so it makes sense to actually not have Ugin's Nexus in this deck because there are defiantly stronger cards that i have.

Honestly I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what else to add besides expensive cards such as Land Tax , Admonition Angel , Avacyn, Angel of Hope , Archangel of Thune , Stoneforge Mystic , Linvala, Keeper of Silence , Angel of Jubilation , The Immortal Sun , Baneslayer Angel , Crucible of Worlds , and maybe Angel of Grace . But in my eyes these are the big buys that 10 dollars or up which probably wont get in tell summer.

heyzeus_ on Angels Brought The Apocalypse

7 months ago

Awesome that you've gotten some play testing in! I thought this was all just in preparation for putting it together but actually playing it is probably way more valuable than the input I could give just by looking; if your testing shows something to be better than I expect, well, then it is. I'm surprised Helm of the Host isn't getting removed, but since it's not, you definitely should keep it!

As far as Lumbering Battlement goes, it's pretty meta-dependent I guess. I don't like big creatures that don't do much else because I find they rarely connect. Lumbering Battlement in particular doesn't have trample or flying or anything so it can be blocked for days, and doesn't defend well against fliers or token armies. However, if those aren't problems with your play group, then it becomes a lot stronger. Also, I completely failed to account for the "board wipe protection" aspect of it, which is synergistic - although personally I think I'd rather another card like Unbreakable Formation instead. Side note, I'd also try to play Sudden Disappearance more like a win con by clearing an opponent's board when someone doesn't expect it. Because it's a sorcery it won't save you if somebody else tries to take out your creatures, and six mana makes it difficult to combo with your own board wipes.

I misread Angelheart Vial completely, I thought you only got one counter per attack and not per damage. That definitely makes it way better, especially since life gain might make people want to attack you even more. Even so, it is a pretty heavy mana investment and I would take a look at some alternatives. In my dragon deck, which has a pretty high curve too, I like having a ton of ramp and less card draw, because once I start dropping dragons it takes a long time before I can play more than one per turn. As a result, it takes me a while to empty my hand. I would suspect your angel deck might be similar, so you might want to consider trying that out.

If anybody you play with uses extra turn spells, definitely play it, just because it's awesome to steal extra turns. If you don't, then I'd advise against it, because it doesn't do anything until it dies. When other players are playing five drops like Lord Windgrace or Nekusar, the Mindrazer , your card does nothing when it hits the battlefield. Personally I'd prefer to do something more impactful right away.

Now that you have a couple tutors, you might want to play Mistveil Plains . Also, if I were in mono white I would definitely play Emeria, The Sky Ruin , because when else would I get the opportunity for free creature recursion on a land?

epartica on Angels Brought The Apocalypse

7 months ago

Yeah together we have both progressed our decks extremely far! Ironically he is running a black deck, and he has also finally taken full advantage of sacrifices, card/card removal, life gain drain and now so how Eldrazi.

After recently play testing my deck a couple times I completely agree with you about Archangel's Light. It doesn't make sense for me because I'm always "praying" for the next big bomb or the right card on my card draw. The sideboard for me at the moment is basically cards I can't decide if I should add or not but still consider to be an extremely good for this deck. Hence why I'm here for advice!

So the thing about Lumbering Battlement is I consider it to be a protection card from me. I use it like I would use Faith's Reward or Sudden Disappearance , expect if no one tries to attack me after that then I get a free swing in before board wiping and yet simultaneously getting all my creatures back. Helm of host I have mixed feeling on that because it has actually won games for me. Depending on who I equip it to, like Lyra Dawnbringer which just makes all angels stronger for every time it creates a token or Exquisite Archangel I can sacrifice a token instead of the original angel, Angelic Skirmisher for the first strike and vigilance, Aegis Angel granting all angels close to indestructible or even artifacts, Angel of Serenity can basically exile my whole graveyard or opponents field. I see your point about it being a nine cost but in tell my friends get smart about trying to destroy it might as well keep it. Angelheart Vial Single handily made me win game but I agree it will also go in exchange for Pristine Talisman . I will defiantly try out Mana Tithe again sadly I just haven't used in game but I'm sure you are not wrong about its use!

Thank you heyzeus_ for fallowing my updates! Your support has really helped me shaped this deck into what it is today! I got my first copy on this deck so it's made me extremely happy and proud, just can't believe how much I've put into this deck though... but it has been worth it and of course I will continue to make it better. What are your thoughts on Ugin's Nexus considering I board-wipe and get ride of artifacts.

Flooremoji on WE.. HATE.. BURNNNN

7 months ago

Ajani's Mantra over Sun Droplet , and Angelheart Vial is disheartening to play against to say the least :) (To expensive though, sigh) Could it be worth it to play lifegaining lands?

heyzeus_ on Angels Brought The Apocalypse

7 months ago

Haha you've got a good friend! I'm glad you've got support for using all of white's tools instead of shying away from land destruction.

If you're still looking to make some changes, I'd really recommend against Archangel's Light . The shuffling your graveyard is pretty irrelevant in commander, especially since you don't have tutors - it's not likely that you'll get your stuff back, and it might not even be as good as what you would have drawn otherwise. So really it's 8 mana to gain some life, which is not good. If someone hits you with a 6/6, and you gain 10 life, they can still hit you with a 6/6 again next turn. On the other hand, if you play an 8 mana angel instead (or some other big bomb), it not only deters future attacks - kind of like gaining life by not getting hit - but it deals damage that can actually advance you to winning the game. Above all else, you should swap out that card.

I'll list out some other cards I'd swap out, and give reasoning for each. Lumbering Battlement is awesome in that it gets huge quickly, but the real reason it's good is because it lets you reuse ETB triggers. Thing is, you only have 4 creatures with ETB triggers, so basically you're trading a creature for +2/+2 on a creature. Considering most of your creatures are bigger than 2/2s, that seems like a bad trade to me. Next, consider taking out Helm of the Host . Yes, the top end is awesome, but it is a 9 mana investment before you get a single copy of a creature. It's not really worth it unless you can reliably get it to stick on a creature, and at least in the commander games I've played, I've literally never seen that happen. Likewise, I suspect Moonsilver Spear isn't that good but it's really flavorful so I'd keep it personally. Finally, I bet Angelheart Vial will disappoint you a lot - I would be very surprised if you got more than one or two activations out of it in a game, and 9 mana to draw two cards and gain 4 life is a pretty abysmal rate.

Looking in your sideboard, you've got good choices. Literally every one I'd run over the cards I just mentioned, but if I were you I'd slide in Akroma, Angel of Wrath , Pristine Talisman , and Sigil of the New Dawn . And I'd like to again point you at Mana Tithe . I promise you will get use out of it, and I promise it will be awesome when you do.

Hope that helps, it's been cool watching your updates!

MichaelAYoung91 on Lifegain in Tasigur Control

8 months ago

Additional note to my original comment: Angelheart Vial is my number one because it often feels like more of an Elephant Grass to your opponents- inconvenient. Your opponents will need to decide whether or not it's a good idea to give you that additional card each turn, or put their focus elsewhere. It feels like losing something to attack the player with the Angelheart Vial just to get an attack in when it gives them card draw and you negate two of that damage anyway.

MichaelAYoung91 on Lifegain in Tasigur Control

8 months ago

My favorites are Lifegift and Druidic Satchel . Looking at your deck I'm unsure what would be the best option but the odds are in your favor to ramp or gain life with Druidic Satchel

KingRamz on

1 year ago

Well of Lost Dreams is solid card draw in a lifegain deck. Angelheart Vial is actually not great, but it at least fits the theme. Necropotence might be good here, since you've got ways to kill it and ways to gain more life so you don't end up locked out of drawing cards. I don't see a lot of ways to take advantage of your graveyard, so Skeletal Scrying is a solid option. And there's several other one-shot card-drawing spells in black you could take advantage of - Night's Whisper, Ambition's Cost, Ancient Craving, Hoarder's Greed.

This isn't exactly card draw, but Whip of Erebos is awesome with your commander and it might be worth an include because of that. If you let Obzedat go to the graveyard when it dies, you can just Whip it back on your turn. At the end of the turn, as long as you stack Obzedat's exile trigger on top of Whip's, you'll get your Obzedat back like normal. Whip won't interfere with Obzedat's exile trigger. If you do go this route, you probably want to make sure to have a few more ways to get Obzedat out of your graveyard, whether it's exile or Raise Dead or reanimation. Nezumi Graverobber is a classic Commander card and could be sweet.

How about some creature cuts? I'd cut:

  • Serra Avatar because you have no way to give it evasion, so it's just going to get chumped by Squirrels
  • High Priest of Penance because you don't have ways to abuse it, so it's just a really awkward Vindicate that often won't work
  • Treasury Thrull because casting a six-mana 4/4 feels so bad and even if it lives a round so it can attack, it's very likely to get blocked by something that will kill it
  • Hokori, Dust Drinker because this deck is full of 5-, 6- and 7-drops and it doesn't have a lot of artifact mana or Seedborn Muse or Sword of Feast and Famine to make the effect less symmetrical. Against decks with more ramp or a lower curve, Hokori is a liability.
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