Zinnia fun
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on July 18, 2024, 10:30 p.m. by tonylomas
Hello! so...Zinnia, Valley's Voice what can we do with her? dont give me dockside combos , thats the obvious, bird tribal? any other tribal? or go etbs and if so, wich ones? tell me -
griffstick says... #3
I'm thinking Clones
And token doublers
And white and green will give you good etbs
That's where you'll need scryfall
July 19, 2024 3:57 a.m.
sergiodelrio says... #5
Not an EDH player, but I felt inspired to do a quick search and I hope it's not too embarrassing... I focused mostly, but not exclusively, on 1 power creatures for max synergy:
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Faerie Miscreant (I think the copies will see each other if you stack triggers correctly)
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Goblin Instigator and the likes
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Double Suture Priest seems worth it?
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Double Esper Sentinel triggers certainly worth it
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Young Pyromancer and Murmuring Mystic might get outta hand quickly if you choose to play nonpermanent spells, but maybe too inconsistent
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Defiler of Faith seems good, I believe the cost reduction ability stacks??? but not 100% sure
happy brewing
July 19, 2024 7:33 a.m.
I am building a custom commander who uses Offspring in Bant colors - some things I am waiting to hear the rulings later today on how they'd interact with the offspring mechanic (Kicker, X spells, evoke, etc.)
Some ideas that come to mind right away are clones like griffstick mentioned. I'm partial to Vizier of Many Faces because the Embalm ability is especially useful if you plan on doing any token synergy or token doubling which brings me to my next suggestions - Anointed Procession and Mondrak, Glory Dominus. Both are mono white and will double all of your offspring tokens.
The rest is up to you, you could go wide and deal auto ETB damage with the likes of Purphoros, God of the Forge, Impact Tremors etc. Or many many other directions. If you need any suggestions or input let me know
July 19, 2024 11:40 a.m.
griffstick says... #7
Found some cards that would go well with Zinnia, Valley's Voice
Target yourself with Mass Diminish
July 19, 2024 11:11 p.m. Edited.
FormOverFunction says... #8
Sort of torn between some sort of plant/flower deck (because Zinnia, obviously) or doubling up into artifact creatures with the OG Zinnia: Mirrorworks ;p
July 20, 2024 9:47 a.m.
I'd say maybe using etb creatures and Ashnod's Altar to sac them, get mana to pay into making tokens, get etbs on tokens. All of the incarnations would work great (though maybe kind of salt inducing) to evoke Fury ping mana dorks, sac to ashnod's, gain mana to gain a token. I don't think Ashnod's Altar will go infinite or anything, but could be a good value engine.
Also, just random cards
Clarion Spirit if you are using etbs and casting creatures will just randomly get you value and spirits
Kabira Takedown Flip because you might have lots of creatures and if not it's just a land
Curiosity effects like, Reconnaissance Mission and Thopter Spy Network and Grazilaxx, Illithid Scholar
Also, any token deck loves Cultural Exchange as a finisher : ) Get your etbs and value cheap and then trade a whole bunch of 1/1s for an opponents best board.
And way off topic, but I feel like Zinnia should be a plant or tree folk, because for real : )
July 22, 2024 5:04 p.m.
FormOverFunction says... #10
“Zinnia” is one of those names that the person who “invented” it likely had no idea that it is also a thing in real life. I’d bet $100 of my wife's money that this person had never heard of that flower ;p
July 23, 2024 2:59 p.m.
FormOverFunction I'd take you up on that bet. Camellia, the Seedmiser, Hazel of the Rootbloom and Mr. Foxglove say that floral/botanical names aren't too unusual.
July 23, 2024 5:33 p.m.
FormOverFunction (best Treebeard voice) A wizard should know better : )
July 23, 2024 6:27 p.m.
griffstick says... #13
It's a popular flower I've got them growing in my front yard.
Crow_Umbra says... #2
I started brewing Zinnia recently. I brewed Satya, Aetherflux Genius as just Value ETBs, & Energy is just a secondary support to keep around certain value creatures. Long-winded way of saying that the Zinnia deck I started brewing is basically just the Satya deck without the Energy support & a few other cards swapped out.
I think Zinnia wants lower curve creatures with value ETBs, so paying the Offspring cost feels fairly reliable. You could def do stuff like:
Soul's Attendant
Skyclave Apparition
Loran of the Third Path
Spirited Companion
Sower of Temptation
Vengeful Ancestor
You can def get tech-y with your ETBs & tailor them to your meta. You can also add in a sprinkle of ETB blink effects to keep reusing your ETBs, like Felidar Guardian
July 18, 2024 10:51 p.m.