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Creature — Human
: Evolved Sleeper becomes a Human Cleric with base power and toughness 2/2.
: If Evolved Sleeper is a Cleric, put a deathtouch counter on it and it becomes a Phyrexian Human Cleric with base power and toughness 3/3.
: If Evolved Sleeper is a Phyrexian, put a +1/+1 counter on it, then you draw a card and you lose 1 life.
DreadKhan on Phylactery lich: a Rule 0 …
3 months ago
Hope I'm not getting to carried away with this brainstorming, but here's what I thought up.
You could also use Nesting Grounds if you like the idea of putting your Phylactery Counter somewhere safer, but an Indestructible artifact is already pretty durable, and there are many of those kicking around.
If you end up using Proliferate for counters, you could look at Subterranean Hangar, it's a good 'land', but you almost want to run extra lands with it, it plays like a ramp source rather than a true land. Bottomless Vault also exists, but this is a much harder to use card that isn't as budget friendly. Both are good with Proliferate effects or big splashy effects, I gather you don't like Hailfire or Exsanguinate, but what about weirder stuff like one of the many big mana Wipe Plus cards that Black gets, stuff like Decree of Pain or Necromantic Selection, I think you can find others like Phyrexian Scriptures or even Damnation because it'll miss your Commander.
I feel Pestilence might be amazing, it's much better if you can give it Lifelink or Deathtouch, usually via a Counter that Nesting Grounds moved (Boot Nipper, Scavenged Brawler, Unbreakable Bond, Unexpected Fangs, Call of the Death-Dweller, Evolved Sleeper, or Void Beckoner, some of those seem solid actually), but even without either it's a great effect to clear out weenies, and your Commander keeps it around pretty consistently. Also very good with Pestilence is Exquisite Blood (paying B to gain 2 life and make 3 opponents each lose 1 sounds very playable), which combos with Sanguine Bond if you want a combo that has independently useful pieces. Blood and Pestilence and your Commander would be nuts with Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, and I love how all of that is just stuff that you want to be doing anyway. Hangar and Vault are also useful with Pestilence.
I suspect you might want to look at some free sacrifice outlets to use incase your Commander is going to be stolen or hit by an Out of Time type effect in the event that you build around them more. Black has great outlets in addition to access to Altars. There is also Command Beacon to get Phylacter Lich back if people steal it.
mememan3310 on Mono Black Nighthawk
7 months ago
Hello, Linker, and thanks for commenting!
A lot of your suggestions I think will change my deck. I'm going to add those lands, definitely move around some removal and discard, and Concealing Curtains Flip is gonna replace Evolved Sleeper for sure as well. I will make some changes in just a few minutes, and then tell me what you think.
Chasmolinker on Mono Black Nighthawk
7 months ago
Hey mememan3310. First off, welcome back!
Some amount of removal is always necessary. Combo and Flying can be tough match-ups for Mono Black without enough discard/removal. 3-4 Fatal Push and 1-2 Murderous Rider are good options with 1-2 copies of Infernal Grasp I like 6-8 hard removal spells as Mono Black is typically a Mid-Range deck. Don't sleep on Gelatinous Cube either. I've stolen plenty of games with that card.
I would stick with 4 Duress and probably cut Agonizing Remorse since the only thing you really need to hit with discard in Mono-black are Non-creature spells. If you want something more versatile, Thoughtseize is your best option.
Sword-Point Diplomacy is a cute card draw spell, but they probably just let you draw the lands or irrelevant cards, (i.e. creature removal against planeswalkers). I personally prefer Sorin the Mirthless or Reckoner Bankbuster for card draw. Unwilling Ingredient is another pet favorite of mine although probably not what you should be running.
I know a lot of people run Evolved Sleeper The card just doesn't resonate with me. It often dies to removal after you've already sunk your mana into it. It reminds me of Hexdrinker in that it can be great if you max it out but getting there uninterrupted is difficult to pull off. I prefer Concealing Curtains Flip and Knight of the Ebon Legion in the 1-drop spot.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel or Invoke Despair are two really solid finishers in Mono-Black. If you can swing Liliana of the Veil and Sheoldred, the Apocalypse you won't be disappointed.
There are so many good cards in Mono-Black that it is tough to squeeze everything in sometimes. 22 Lands seems too low. A single Takenuma, Abandoned Mire, Field of Ruin, and Hive of the Eye Tyrant are worth looking at as utility lands. I'd try to get 24-25 lands in there since most of the powerful Mono-Black spells fall in the 3+ MV range.
Dead_Blue_ on Need Deck Help, Getting Back …
7 months ago
I was suggesting something more like this Mono-Black Devotion
Under 100$ and you could easily slot Evolved Sleeper or any other cards you really like into it
mememan3310 on Need Deck Help, Getting Back …
7 months ago
I'm also going to swap out my Vampire of the Dire Moons for some Evolved Sleepers. That card looks crazy good in the event of flooding out.
legendofa on Need Deck Help, Getting Back …
7 months ago
Here's a sample mono-black devotion deck for Pioneer. (I don't have links enabled, sorry.)
It's very much not a budget deck, but it should give some ideas. Invoke Despair is a good setup that can double as a finisher, Evolved Sleeper provides early pressure that scales up, and Murderous Rider is good control, although your 3-mana slot seems to be pretty well-filled now. All of these are relatively budget cards, topping out at $2 each right now. If that's still too much, there's reasonable options below fifty cents.
Gadianten on Divine Machinations (Cleric Tribal)
8 months ago
Glad you like the deck betomindslav, I am always willing to hear ideas to improve it. I am currently waiting on a shipment of new clerics to change the roster up a bit, although nothing with the deck warping power as Yawgmoth, Thran Physician has been printed, Shadow-Rite Priest and Evolved Sleeper are still looking particularly good as additions. With this last set coming out its probably about time to review the clergy and realign deck synergy to come into line with the changing cast.