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Negate
Instant
Counter target noncreature spell.
Ogrecorps on "Unbeatable" card combo, or so …
4 months ago
UPDATE: VICTORY!!
Here's the deck I used (warning, it is not great and I'm open to suggestions to improve it as a more general-purpose meme deck that strips out important things and leaves someone else to actually kill people in free-for-all format.) https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-06-25-SkD-grrr/?cb=1750236034
The story: 3 players, me with the meme deck, work friend with the "you cannot lose the game" mystery deck, and a third with a deck specifically filled with legendaries of as many types as he can make work.
My starting hand had Leyline of the Void and I kicked off hostilities with Bitter Ordeal and got to peruse through the "cannot lose" deck to see how it works. Key cards found: Herald of Eternal Dawn, Negate, Three Steps Ahead, Restricted Office / Lecture Hall, Virtue of Persistence. I took out one of the 4 Heralds. The legendaries deck built up nicely with about 6 or 7 big creatures with deathtouch (All-Out Assault) and flying and vigilance and lifelink and other such nonsense. This player normally likes to be fair (i.e. spread the damage around, not pick on anyone) when he feels like he's winning so I had to warn him off with the strongest arguments I could that I was absolutely not a threat to him, that I had built the deck specifically to counter the other player. Cannot Lose had no creatures out so Legendaries swung at him fully with enough to put him to -9 life. Looked like it was over already and then pop! Cannot Lose flashed out Herald of Eternal Dawn before combat damage was dealt, keeping him alive despite negative life.
Cannot Lose then quickly got out two lecture halls from Restricted Office / Lecture Hall, giving the herald and both lecture halls hexproof. Around here I realized a major weakness in my deck: it largely has to target something in the opponent's graveyard, making Leyline of the Void super not helpful. Happily, Cannot Lose Get Lostd it. Because nothing much was going to graveyards that I wanted to strip out, I built up a little supply of Extirpate and Surgical Extraction - this will be important later... Legendaries took about 6 turns and smashed Cannot Lose to about -30 life while enjoying all the lifelink that gave him.
It was at this point that Cannot Lose messaged me privately to say that he'd won, it was just going to take an hour. The next turn, he used Loran's Escape on his Herald and then used one of his Restricted Offices for a boardwipe. My defenses being so pathetic, were fine. Legendaries, however, got cleaned out, 7 or 8 big beasts in the graveyard... This left Cannot Lose as the only one on the table with any attacking power and a pair of Fountainports to slowly grow an army of fish with.
Somewhere in the excitement I'd stripped out all of his Get Lost, and Stock Up. I knew from searching his hand that he had a Negate still ready for something that might kill his Herald, the only thing keeping him alive. Then came the exchange I'm going to be hearing about all day today at work from Cannot Lose, the part where he's kicking himself for doing what he did: Legendaries brought out a planeswalker; Cannot Lose used Three Steps Ahead to counter it, putting a copy of one of his 2 counter spells in his graveyard. I targeted it with Surgical Extraction. He Negated. I surgical extracted his Three Steps and then Extirpated his Negate, successfully exiling all of his counterspells! He has already told me that he shouldn't have countered the planeswalker, that he should have just used fish from Fountainport to neutralize it.
And then Legendaries Ruinous Ultimatumd. Herald, hexproofs, and my two Wall of Vines all gone! Cannot Lose was at -30 something life and evaporated in a long silence followed by a drawn out frustrated groan. He'd nearly fought his way back and if only he could have had another Herald in hand to flash out or I hadn't stripped out his counterspells... He was also intimately familiar with Legendaries' deck because the two of them worked on it closely together so knew exactly how little strength he had left after all of those creatures got wiped with no serious options for bringing any back. Either way though, I still had 3 Sudden Spoilings in my library somewhere so chances were decent I'd get him killed for being in negative life sooner or later.
Thus began the long, slow final phase of the battle wherein I had only defensive creatures, and Legendaries had 40-something life but only one or two offensive options left in his deck which was down to about 27 cards to my 35ish. I used Liquimetal Coating and Splinter on one of his Plains, a generally useless move and one I probably should have saved for an actual threat but I was just happy Cannot Lose had lose'd. The end came when I fired off a kicked Sadistic Sacrament, ensuring that there wasn't going to be anything left to hurt me. Before I searched his deck, however, Legendaries capitulated and we called it there, official cause of death: inevitable milling out.
Mortlocke on
The Queen's Egg
6 months ago
Hey all,
I never seem to find a moment to just sit down and answer comments, so sorry for the wait. Doombeard1984, I've been noticing a trend at more competitive tables that players are favoring non-basics over just regular islands. I'd contemplate cutting Carpet of Flowers for another interaction piece like Flusterstorm
or the aforementioned Aura Shards. I'd have to give it some thought on what would be a good replacement. Nature's Claim has to stay in though, as it's interaction without any caveats which is my personal preference, plus that sweet TimeSpiral Remastered old border foil just gets my neurons going.

And Mother Sliver Queen's Blessings upon you as well. May you generate many Slivers.
Hi Daevied. I do believe the deck could be downgraded to a Bracket 3 deck with the simple removal of all but maybe 3 game changers. The identity of the deck lies in the curated list of Slivers - the rest is just to ensure your opponents can't thwart your plans. I highly encourage you to try your hand at your own iteration of the deck, some spells i'd suggest including would be:
- Arcane Denial
- An Offer You Can't Refuse
- Heroic Intervention
- Clever Concealment
- Aura Shards (i'm still considering this spell for my own iteration)
- Negate
- Mortify
- Kindred Dominance
- Get Lost
- Skyshroud Claim
That's just a list of spells i'd consider - nothing definitive mind you. If you do follow through with your decklist please send me a link to the page. I always like to see what other Hives are brewing.
Seuchenschutz on
Sidisi Brood Commander
10 months ago
Thx for the suggestions Andramalech! Im really happy to get some feedback on this deck. In an earlier Version i had 2-3 cheap counters in the deck An Offer You Can't Refuse, Swan Song and a Negate but I took them out, because they became a salt factor in my playgroup. Whatever. Victimize is a great card, but after playing it for a while, I often felt like them coming tapped and leaving me with less blockers for a turn is kind of a big downside. I had some situations, where I just couldnt afford to cast it. As for the Diabolic Intent its the same with the counters. Salty players... But I just couldnt get myself to cut the Demonic Tutor. Plumb the Forbidden however might be worth a shot.
razelfark on
Eerie :: Enchantment
1 year ago
Solid looking start for a deck idea, but almost lloks like you have your deck split between a token value deck and aura pump start.
For Aura Pump I would advise picking up:
Silent Hallcreeper: this 2 drop provides you with a great early creature that can't be blocked until you have to transform it into a copy of one of your other craetures.
Gremlin Tamer: 4th copy very useful
Sheltered by Ghosts: up to 4 copies is not a bad thing as the card is solid removal and protection. Downside that they do get their card back if the creature it is on is removed, but the protection built into it makes it good enough to take a risk on.
Feather of Flight: Card draw plus flying for just 2 mana that also helps triggers all your Eerie cards is a useful. Flying particuarly useful because it helps your creatures through for attacks for synergy with Ethereal Armor for surpise lethal, but also good paired with Enduring Curiosity as you get the card draw damage triggers easier.
Fae Flight: All the bonus of Feather of Flight with one turn protection instead of card draw.
Ethereal Armor: more copies as it adds the most damage for your cards per mana as it scales with all the other cards in play. Can push turn 3 wins scary enough.
If playing Best of 3:
Negate: simple counter option to help fight vs non-target removal
Elspeth's Smite or Not on My Watch: just to help vs Mono red leyline. These instant speed spells will help you stop opponents from taking you out before you have a chance to play the game. They also can help protect you from a person slow playing their pumps with a haste pump turn.
If you want to focuse more on the token value end of your deck, well it would cost a bit of rares/mythics:
Enduring Innocence: More copies as you want the card draw value with hard to remove value card
Dollmaker's Shop / Porcelain Gallery: Does good work in this style of deck for the sudden team pump and synergy to make tokens fits.
Caretaker's Talent: Works like the Enduring Innocence to get card for value
Fountainport: This land provides all the value you want for takoen decks
And overall adjustment to more control focused spells work well with this idea surprisingly.
9-lives on
1 year ago
Thanks again, RiotRunner789! You have been the biggest help to me! I would use these cards, but I feel their instrumental nature is somewhat difficult to use. Ertai's Meddling is a very, very weird card to me. It doesn't seem as good as a tying-up-mana card. I'd rather use the rest of the opponent's mana when they cast something, which my other players in the commander game would enjoy and reward. I don't know why resolving it at a later turn would be better. Dispel is great, but I don't know if I can always draw it with instants resolving; surely they would use instants, it's just that I'm not completely certain of the outcomes in a game. Same goes for Confound and Intervene and Turn Aside. Negate is great; I could definitely use that. Forbid
is also something I am considering.
I plan on drawing a petrifying amount of cards, haha. I have a bunch of creatures in slipspace for that to happen. I'd just have to complete myself by drawing a card that keeps my hand size from being limited. This is a huge problem for me. If you can help with this, I'd be doubly grateful!
RiotRunner789 on
1 year ago
Thinking of counter spells (especially budget),
Ertai's Meddling: Technically exiles, so gets around Dovin's Veto. Best used against other counters.
Dispel is just solid.
Confound and Intervene if you need your creatures or Turn Aside for any permanent.
Negate isn't in your deck but assuming it's for a reason.
Forbid
and Dispersal Shield are both great but more synergy dependant. Do you draw a dumb amount of cards or have semi high cmc cards? I will say, Forbid
is a straight upgrade from Cancel even if buyback is almost never.
Exoflo on
SIX
1 year ago
Avarice Totem is a bad card
Soulless Jailer and Chef's Kiss are too specific cards that are not synergistic
Negate can be replace by a general counter spell
Brand is useless imo
Contested Game Ball just ask people to attack you
Harmless Offering and Wrong Turn are useless if zedruu stick on the field
Scrambleverse is pure chaos. It throws game and does not make it fun anymore, neither for u or your friends
Jinxed Idol is anti-synergistic cause you give creature
You have to many creature-focussed removal and not true "remove all" (like Witness Protection or Path to Exile. Keep enchantment, they are synergistic with Zedruu)
You have to many wincon, choose how you want to win and remove the other (keep them appart and modify you deck if you want to try new thing)
Remove more that 18 cards and add some lands
Consider adding some protection for Zedruu
After that, remove some bad gift and some "givers"
I don't like giving creature to opponent cause they can just sac it, or kill it during combat. That's just my opinion.
I don't like bad gift zedruu, again that's my opinion
Very good choice of commander
More important : play the card you like the most
doc_frank_18 on
Nah Dude
1 year ago
Otherworldly Gaze OUT ---- Heroic Intervention IN...... Conduit of Worlds OUT ----- Negate IN..... Crucible of Worlds OUT ----- Counterspell IN..... Decanter of Endless Water OUT ----- Thought Vessel IN..... Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait OUT ----- Arcane Signet IN..... Ramunap Excavator OUT ----- Talisman of Curiosity IN..... Life from the Loam OUT ----- Fabricate IN!!!!..... Scapeshift OUT ----- Sway of Illusion IN!!!!.....
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