Creature — Zombie Horror
Whenever a creature dealt damage by Dread Slaver this turn dies, return it to the battlefield under your control. That creature is a black Zombie in addition to its other colors and types.
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|Avacyn Restored (AVR)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Dread Slaver Discussion
2 weeks ago
1 year ago
Divine Visitation , Second Sunrise , Abnormal Endurance , Sun Titan , Black Cat , Corpse Augur , Demonic Vigor , Diabolic Servitude , Driver of the Dead , Festering Mummy , Gift of Immortality , Malicious Affliction , Plague Belcher , Polluted Dead , Showstopper , Skin Invasion Flip, The Scorpion God , Together Forever , Alesha, Who Smiles at Death , Apprentice Necromancer , Claim / Fame , Dawnbreak Reclaimer , Defy Death , Devoted Crop-Mate , Dread Slaver , Emeria Shepherd , Entreat the Dead
1 year ago
Some Humble Recommendations
Don't forget Cemetery Reaper , Cryptbreaker , Havengul Lich , Prized Amalgam , Risen Executioner , Wonder , Tidehollow Sculler , Zombie Master , Graveborn Muse , and, if the $$ is still right : Mikaeus, the Unhallowed , and Sidisi, Undead Vizier .
- Buried Alive (Big One)
- Coat of Arms (Also Big)
- Vanquisher's Banner
- Graf Harvest
- Necromancer's Stockpile
- Cathars' Crusade (probably)
- Unconventional Tactics (better than it looks)
- Bad Moon
- Altar of Dementia
- Stitch Together
- Mind Shatter (why the fk not)
- Patriarch's Bidding (again if you down with the $$)
- Anguished Unmaking
Stuff to Drop
2 years ago
may i suggest Cemetery Reaper, Geralf's Messenger, Quest for the Gravelord, Waste Not, Ghoulcaller's Chant, Grave Crawler, Havengul Runebinder, Grimgrin, Corpse-Born, Havengul Lich, Dread Slaver, Endless Ranks of Dead and Countersquall.
2 years ago
Thanks for the feedback, LittleBlueHero!
This is exactly the sort of response I was looking for. I like your suggestion about the god formula, and in fact earlier iterations had something like this. I put forth a conscious effort to avoid turning either of these cards into walls of text, so I can really appreciate the brevity of your solution to the attack/block restrictions, and based on your suggestions I'll probably find a way to work that back in.
What you were saying about Rise of the Dark Realms is part of why I came here asking for advice. I felt the ability was fitting, but I couldn't find an elegant solution that didn't result in a comically high CMC.
The second ability that you were comparing to Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet is actually one that I ripped straight off of Dread Slaver, and I felt it was safe to use that as a starting point because slaver gives your opponent the luxury of deciding how to handle it by either blocking with creatures big enough to survive combat, or not blocking at all and sparing their creatures entirely.
Thanks for the kind words regarding the "creatures deal commander damage" ability. I think it's the coolest part of the card, but I'm painfully aware of how good it is, and balancing around it has been challenging. I found it funny you put indestructible on him, as I've been going back and forth about that since I started, and it helps with the problem of shroud. I actually don't want shroud on him, as it makes him immune to Legacy Weapon, which breaks flavor. On the other hand, I don't want Yawg dying to little removal spells that wouldn't make any sense lore-wise.
I actually tried to avoid phyrexian mana, seeing as that's more closely associated with New Phyrexia, but I'm not opposed to giving it a spin in future playtesting, especially because it does increase the design space I have to work with.
Thanks a lot for your feedback! It's stuff like this that helps me refine this whole thing into a better product.
3 years ago
Thanks for your suggestions! This is a pretty rough list right now; there's a lot of cards I need to get, many of which you've suggested (Liliana, Death's Majesty, Liliana's Mastery, Shepherd of Rot, Zombie Master). This deck is admittedly a low priority among my EDH lists, (owning nine Commander decks really hurts my wallet) but I'm looking forward to teching it out as it is next on my list to upgrade.
I would absolutely run Lord of the Undead and Relentless Dead if it weren't for the fact that both of those cards are quite expensive for me. Since Standard is about to rotate out Shadows Over Innistrad, I figure I can pick up the latter once it cycles out for a better price.
Dralnu, Lich Lord isn't really good for my playgroup. Aside from the fact that I'm focusing on a creature-based deck as opposed to instant/sorceries, there's about two too many copies of Blasphemous Act floating around that would really punish me.
Breathstealer's Crypt looks cool, always love older janky cards that synergise well. I'm just concerned about revealing every card I draw; I love to play politically and I think that could hurt me.
Dread Slaver used to be in the list, and from playtesting I can say it underperformed. A lot. I could never create a favorable combat situation in which my opponent would actually block/attack into it. Creatures can just be really big in EDH.
Zombie Infestation is a pretty good card, but I like to tutor up Necropotence pretty often and discarding has antisynergy with it.
Other cards I'm looking to add would be Graveborn Muse (I get to draw into whatever I didn't scry away), Risen Executioner (as a more budget Zombie lord), Hero's Downfall (to strictly upgrade Murder), Buried Alive (just a casual 3-for-3 tutor), and Paradox Haze (because duh).
Thanks again for your upvote!
3 years ago
Upvote because I used this to start mine off. Thanks for the base!
A few cards I am considering and/or adding to my build just to take advantage of the zombie and token theme:
Looking forward to building this completely in the next few weeks. Let me know your thoughts or other cards you may recommend.
3 years ago
if you don't mean the mana cost,Dread Slaver could be the card for you