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|Pauper Duel Commander||Legal|
(Black), Discard a creature card: Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
1 day ago
Tortured Existence seems like it would be a great one for Greasefang!
1 month ago
1 month ago
Gattison: Thanks again for the tips on updating the decks. To celebrate getting out of quarantine, last night I took this deck to my LGS to test it out with the other Pauper players. I made some minor changes beforehand:
We're normally a small group but that night we were only 4: myself, another Pauper regular, and two others who are very active in the competitive Modern league. We settled into 3 rounds and... oof: 5 losses, 1 win, and one undecided due to overtime. Here's how it went down:
Round 1: vs. BG Dredge/ Tortured Existence 0-2-0 Not a good matchup at all, I'm afraid. Spore Frog made the combat step irrelevant, Thoughtpicker Witch kept me drawing lands and exiling my answers, and saccing his chump blockers to the deck's namesake kept me from activating any beneficial death triggers. All my card-draw got shuffled to the bottom in both rounds and there wasn't much I could do until he got a couple Gurmag Angler out to end my misery. On a side note: I hate playing against Dredge almost as much as Blink or Tron--all of which are beloved in this local meta. Maybe it's just ze Germans -_-. I'm always on the lookout for answers against these.
Round 2: vs. UB Looting/Control 0-2-0 Things were looking hopeful while I was developing my board and he was just casting different versions of Preordain for the first few turns. His main beater turned out to be Shipwreck Sifters, which got uncomfortably swole thanks to repeatable looting. Dross Golem was a star in this round and almost killed him in the first match. However after sideboarding, his removal became much more aggressive and I wasn't even left with blockers. Missing answers and sigh card draw, he took it home with some beefy spirits.
Round 3: vs. Temur Cascade or Gruul Walls + Mulldrifter -_-' 1-1-1 This was a weird one: aggressively defending and ramping with Tinder Wall, Overgrown Battlement, and Tuktuk Rubblefort until he could cascade into Boarding Party and other beaters. By turn 3 he had at least 6 walls out, each with at least 3 toughness that brushed off anything I could turn sideways. We were both surprised when my card draw engine started working in match 2 and I could slap out my own beaters with multiple rituals and disputes in a single turn. While he was missing his and Winding Way, I managed a Soulcage Fiend and Mortis Dogs by turn 2. After taking the 5-life hit from Dash Hopes twice, I had him on turn 5; clinching it with Howl from Beyond. Although the last round was undecided and he was prepared to kill me with hasty Pirates again, I was still pleased to pull off the primary wincon at least once.
Overall thoughts: This was my first outing with the deck so I still need to play it more to see the clear differences between the inherent weaknesses and my own misplays. I like aggressive decks and when this got going, I was down to clown. All-stars of the night were Mortis Dogs, Dross Golem, and especially Deadly Dispute. So much value. Add a dash or two of Dark Ritual and Sign in Blood in a single turn? chef's kiss That being said, I still think some adjustments are in order: First, that Mortuary Mire got to go. It slowed down the deployment of creatures and messed with my draws. Silly me. Unearth is much better recursion hands down. Second, sadly the goblins and newts must make room for another 1 or 2 Festering Mummy and a full set of Shambling Ghast. The latter does the same thing as the others but gives the option to ramp--which is especially relevant in my meta where creature decks are scarce. Third, better quicker removal? I left out Innocent Blood this time but either that or the asymmetrical Geth's Verdict could work. Fourth, mass removal or damage-dealing ala Crypt Rats or Pestilence? Sure, it would kill our forces but isn't that the point?
After looking at some other Suicide Black lists, I've seen what makes this deck unique and I'm still interested in making it work. I like the focus on death triggers and I'd love to find more ways to exploit them. Other creature-based lists use beaters like Guul Draz Vampire, Dauthi Slayer, and Carnophage to drop that life total to the floor. Pumping beaters like these and/or giving them lifelink seems appealing, but I'd like to stay true to the spirit of this deck as much as I can.
Sorry for the wall of text, I just wanted to get this all out now while it was still fresh. I hope this proves interesting to you or any others looking to try this deck out.
2 months ago
Love the deck!
Just in case it has not crossed your mind, another great way to kill your opponents is using Tortured Existence with Syr Konrad, the Grim. Not only is it a good backup plan for Vampire's Kiss but it also adds another way to mill out your opponents. Every activation of Tortured Existence would be 2 damage to each of your opponents with Syr Konrad, the Grim. And you can always use him to just mill them out and damage them whenever they mill a creature. Adding even a single copy to the deck would give you another route to victory. Though it is slow compared to the rest of the deck
4 months ago
6 months ago
Hey, nice budget upgrade of the precon.
Tortured Existence is a repeatable discard effect to trigger Sefris to venture on each player's turn for one mana each time as long as you have at least one creature in your graveyard and one creature in your hand to repeatedly loop discard/recur. Existence + Radiant Solar to venture two times on each player's turn for and Solar can put itself into your graveyard from your hand to enable Existence. Cycling creatures are also helpful to enable Existence. Existence is a reanimation enabler that you can activate at instant speed to abuse Sefris's Create Undead effect.
Viscera Seer + Reassembling Skeleton combo to trigger Sefris to venture on each player's turn for two mana each time. Can also pair Seer with Ashen Rider for a repeatable effect of Rider dying, to get Rider back into your graveyard to reanimate again with Sefris's Create Undead effect. Apprentice Necromancer also combos with Rider since Rider will die at the next end step.
Sun Titan + Apprentice Necromancer for repeatable reanimation of any 3 CMC or less permanents for only one mana. When Titan is reanimated by Necromancer it can reanimate Necromancer and Necromancer gives Titan haste when it reanimates it. Do this interaction on your turn, each time for one mana.
If reanimation is the main theme then consider a few more effects to setup? Loot is draw and then discard which triggers Sefris to venture and it gives good control over what cards you discard. Consider more loot?
- Compulsion: repeatable loot to trigger Sefris on each player's turn for two mana.
- Geier Reach Sanitarium: land for repeatable loot.
- Zephyr Boots: equip to Sefris to give him flying and repeatable loot.
- Frantic Search
- Faithful Mending
- Thirst for Discovery
Vile Entomber can search for and put any card into your graveyard to setup reanimation.
If interested I offer more advice including cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.
6 months ago
I like this. Been looking for an excuse to use my playset of gurmag anglers.
You ever thought of using Tortured Existence?
6 months ago
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