Noetic Scales

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Noetic Scales


At the beginning of each player's upkeep, return to its owner's hand each creature that player controls with power greater than the number of cards in their hand.

zAzen7977 on TINY PUNISHER - Discard/Stax [cEDH Primer]

1 year ago

Awdiehl7, thanks for the comments! I’m constantly tinkering with the deck and I’d love to hear more feedback as you continue playing with it.

As soon as your play group realizes how powerful the deck really is, you immediately become the arch-enemy lol. If your meta is creature-heavy, try to stick Ensnaring Bridge, No Mercy, or Noetic Scales early to slow them down. Lately I’ve been running Bridge and The Meathook Massacre. You can also run Bile Blight, Black Sun's Zenith, and Innocent Blood in place of Dismember, Night's Whisper, Planar Void, or something else.

DreadKhan on pew = PEW PEW PEW (Ghyrson Starn)

1 year ago

Not sure if you've got enough bodies for it, but Kyren Negotiations lets each creature ping your opponent each turn, which your Commander can buff.

I like the idea of throwing in lifelink equipment, some of it has other upsides. The ones I think look most interesting are Shadowspear, which gives buffs and can remove Indestructible, and maybe Resurrection Orb, but you do have to send your Commander to the graveyard I think to get the recursion.

If you want a way to get a 1 drop into your hand more reliably, there is Dizzy Spell, which is much cheaper than Fabricate and can find any 1 drop. There are other Transmute cards for different MV, all Black or Blue. Blue can't find 4 drops IIRC, but can find a bunch of others.

A generically helpful creature in a deck that likes a 1/1 flying token is Faerie Formation, which makes tokens and draws cards, both tend to be helpful on their own, getting both is nice. Another card that I feel like is kind of good in this deck would be Arc Mage, it's a nice budget way to ping two creatures for 1, in a pinch it can also do 2 if your Commander isn't out.

If you go the Propaganda route, some other cards to consider are War Tax and Ensnaring Bridge. If you can keep your creatures power low enough (and have some draw), Noetic Scales can be very good at keeping the board clear of big threats, and you can deal with the weenies I suspect.

Jett2112 on Tinybones, Trinket Thief

2 years ago

Waste Not, Words of Waste, Noetic Scales, Geth's Grimoire, Dauthi Voidwalker and mostly Tegrid god of fright all synergize big time with Dark Deal and Pox too.

I would think about cutting Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage, Liliana of the Dark Realms, Ensnaring Bridge depending on what creatures show up in your meta and Liliana's Spoils maybe.

xram666 on Arcades, goes to Wallmart

2 years ago

Another Arcades Deck +1 from me.

Mabye you want to take a look at my Deck: Arcades the new leadsinger of the Rolling Stones

Some suggestions form me:

  • Noetic Scales has nice synergy with Arcades but is a bit vulnerable
  • Aluren is totally busted in an Arcades Deck but is very expensive
  • Retribution of the Meek is another mass removal spell that doesn't affect yourself

Romer on Tinybones Leaves You with Nothing

2 years ago

Thanks for the suggestions KayneMarco! I've now added Words of Waste but I'm holding off on Nezumi Shortfang  Flip - it fits perfectly, but I already have cards with similar effects (like Wheel of Torture) and it's so hard to fit more cards in.

Glad you appreciate how terribly evil this is, megaquazoid ;)

bradtheimpaler13: I aim for discard effects that impact only opponents where possible but a lot of my discard impacts everyone. Still, that means in a rotation around the table, my opponents combined do more discarding than I do so while Bone Miser would net me some advantage, it's not as much as some other effects I have like Waste Not, Asylum Visitor or Noetic Scales.

DemMeowsephs, Necrogen Spellbomb absolutely fits thematically but using a whole card to make a single opponent discard 1 feels like a bad trade. I prefer to find permanents with ongoing discard effects, or that make all opponents/players discard. It's also tough finding room considering all the new discard effects lately... which is a good problem to have, really.

hmhlund on Vadrok, Apex of Thunder

3 years ago

Vadrok looks really sweet and fresh! I’ve been brewing it after seeing your requested commanders video.

My comfort zone is green creatures, stompy, and overrun, so I might use this to branch into a stax/control style. It’d punish crazy ramp and board states, bringing them down to my level, white—style. Recurrable ones include Restore Balance , Smoke , AEther Barrier and Soul Barrier , and your Culling Scales . Some cost more than 3 but are still effective - Damping Engine , Portcullis , Noetic Scales , Incite Rebellion .

I guess from there, win by attacking? Or find a combo. It’s a case of decision paralysis atm, but it’ll be easier to shave down once I decide on a direction.

xram666 on

3 years ago

Hi. Nice Deck. +1 from me. Some suggestions from me:

maybe you want to take a look at me Arcades Deck: Arcades the new leadsinger of the Rolling Stones

NocTurtle on Tinybones, Big Discard Party

3 years ago

Noetic Scales is a great substitute for ensnaring bridge if your oppenents aren't going for combat damage

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