Ancient Hellkite

Ancient Hellkite

Creature — Dragon


: Ancient Hellkite deals 1 damage to target creature defending player controls. Activate this ability only if Ancient Hellkite is attacking.

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Set Rarity
2011 Core Set (M11) Rare
Promo Set (000) Rare

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Highlander Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Block Constructed Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Ancient Hellkite Discussion

Vlasiax on Bow before Draconic King!!! | THB Update

1 year ago

I understand, I've been fan of Dragons since I've bought my very first Intro pack with Ancient Hellkite in it and since that time I've tried to build powerful Dragon deck in modern but all in all it ended up being in EDH when The Ur-Dragon was spoiled. So I'll try to save as much as possible to get all the fancy spells eventually.

In your decklist I didn't see an Expedition Map - isn't it quite good tutor for Cavern of Souls or rainbow lands?

loricatuslupus on HEAVENLY INFERNO - Kaalia of the Vast UPGRADE

1 year ago

Always nice to see another Kaalia deck as she was my first (shameless plug: Still Better than Dan Brown...). Firstly, is that "sideboard" in fact meant to be your wants list? If so, just make your acquireboard public to avoid any confusion! Anyway I'd recommend losing Ancient Hellkite, Mana-Charged Dragon and Victory's Herald. Consider Angelic Field Marshal/Demon of Wailing Agonies/Tyrant's Familiar as you'll usually be getting them out with Kaalia. Speaking of, if you want to stop her getting munched take a look at Dust Corona and Reconnaissance, either of which might be better than Angelic Chorus or Exquisite Blood - good cards, but 5cmc is the spot where you can start thinking about hard-casting creatures and you don't really seem to have any synergistic plays with gaining life (perhaps introduce Krav, the Unredeemed/Regna, the Redeemer combo?). If you can upgrade your package to include Anguished Unmaking and Vindicate over cards like Wrecking Ball then do: unconditional removal is never a dead draw. Finally, Helm of the Host is epic with Kaalia.

Ps, I see you run Armageddon. Depending on who you play with, I would recommend either going all-in on the land destruction by getting more mana rocks and other spells like Cataclysm or dropping it entirely. It can make you very unpopular...

ptownazkikr on How does stand or fall ...

1 year ago

Just to clarify, it can make all but half of the creatures of one opponent unable to block for my combat phase? Also the defending player confusion came because some other cards with similar terminology, like Ancient Hellkite, use the term defending player terminology to specify which opponent it can affect.

GoblinsBeatElves on Daretti's Dragons

2 years ago

Hmmm... Daretti’s Dragons. When I first saw this name, I didn’t think the deck would work very well, considering that most dragons do not work with artifacts. However, this actually seems like a pretty strong deck, with the artifacts doing all the cool stuff and the dragons coming in late game for lots of damage. Now, I don’t particularly like to play artifacts. I’m sure that many people do, but I just prefer creatures and spells. However, I have experience with dragons, and should be able to give you some good suggestions for that bit of the deck. I would guess that you probably want dragons that interact with artifacts, so here’s what I have for you:

Dragons that do artifact stuff: Covetous Dragon

Freejam Regent

Furnace Dragon

Hoard-Smelter Dragon

Moltensteel Dragon

Other cool dragons you could use:

Scourge of the Throne

Furyborn Hellkite

Dragon Mage

Bogardan Hellkite

Ancient Hellkite

And some more artifact dragons:

Henge Guardian

Teeka's Dragon

Clockwork Dragon

Lotus Guardian

Now, you might use a or a f these, or you might use none of them. I am just giving ideas that you COULD use. So try them out if you want, keep experimenting. Hope this helps! Good luck!

Spirits on Kaalia in the works(Final Draft Maybe?)

2 years ago


Flameblast Dragon doesn't work with Kaalia of the Vast's triggered ability.

Kaalia of the Vast says "onto the battlefield tapped an attacking that opponent", so the Flameblast Dragon never "Attacks", which means his triggered ability "Whenever Flameblast Dragon attacks..." never triggers.

On gatherer for Kaalia of the Vast, there is a ruling that clarifies, Kaalia Rulings. "the creature card is already tapped and attacking as it's put onto the battlefield, Any abilities that trigger when a creature becomes tapped or when a creature attacks won't trigger for that card"

That's consistent with the rules:

508.4. If a creature is put onto the battlefield attacking, its controller chooses which defending player or which planeswalker a defending player controls its attacking as it enters the battlefield (unless the effect that put it onto the battlefield specifies what its attacking). Such creatures are attacking but, for the purposes of trigger events and effects, they never attacked.

So a few things, he never "attacks", he is "attacking", and he never "attacked". So doesn't trigger whenever attacks, or creatures that say If this creature attacked this turn (bad eg: Kytheon, Hero of Akros  Flip), also wouldn't trigger. But things like Condemn would still work because he is "attacking"

So Flameblast Dragon won't work with Kaalia of the Vast. Also, he has another down side, must be paid whenever he attacks, so the next turn, you tap him to attack, triggers his ability, it's at that time that you have to decide how much to pay, before you know anything about blocker declaration, or flash/instants spells and abilities which may change your mind if you want to even pay the mana this time. The good thing is though, that you only choose the targets when the triggered ability goes off, you get to choose the value for as the ability resolves, which means it's too late for anyone to respond. He just doesn't have good synergy with Kaalia of the Vast, although he looks awesome.

Ancient Hellkite or Shivan Hellkite and the likes would work, but they aren't a Flameblast Dragon. I seem to remember an dragon that worked, but I can't think of him right now, could be totally wrong, may not exist.

jakeelephant006 on Toxic Thunder 2: The Toxic Avenger

2 years ago

Lands: Take out 2 Mountains, Stone Quarry, Cinder Barrens, and Forsaken Sanctuary and maybe the Guildgates if you want and add in at least one plains, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, any of the life gain dual lands from Tarkir... just use better duals than the strictly-worse guildgates. I have a personal issue with those lands. They insulted "Avatar the Last Airbender" once.


Things to pull: Ancient Hellkite works to slow, requires to much investment, and is too conditional. Forgestoker Dragon cuz it's clunky and slow compared to other things. (A lot of these suggestions will be cutting the worst of duplicate effects). Aegis Angel (above reason)? Wojek Embermage? Paragon of Open Graves cuz you don't have enough black to make its ability work. Scalding Salamander is too conditional. Either Vulshok Sorcerer or Blood Cultist. Crossbow Infantry. Stun Sniper. Painsmith because not enough artifacts.

Artifacts: That Which Was Taken cuz it's also too slow.

Boza on Starter Deck FFA - Balancing/Improvement

2 years ago

Doesn't Wizards already have 30 card starter decks available for free for players who are just starting out? At least my LGS hands them out to new players all the time.

The advice I would give is to have a single bulk rare that represents the color well in the deck. It is goo to have a deck where you are working towards something. An iconic creature is the easy way to do it:

Glyph Keeper
Emeria Shepherd
Bloodgift Demon
Ancient Hellkite
Hydra Broodmaster

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