Nissa, Vital Force
Planeswalker — Nissa
+1: Untap target land you control. Until your next turn, it becomes a 5/5 Elemental creature with haste. It's still a land.
-3: Return target permanent card from your graveyard to your hand.
-6: You get an emblem with "Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may draw a card."
|Have (2)||gildan_bladeborn , Bluboltar|
|Want (3)||Corruptions_Desire , jaumecen , glemis|
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|Kaladesh (KLD)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Nissa, Vital Force Discussion
1 week ago
FRICK THOUGHT OF MORE:
Magus of the Candelabra (easy combo, all you need is any effect that taps for like a few more mana), Illusionist's Bracers with Arbor Elf or a bunch of other untappers. Nissa, Vital Force and Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip are value from top to bottom.
Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger doubles your creature mana too now, and was pretty decent before at least ;)
2 weeks ago
So far there have been very few changes in the deck in a while, mainly because there have been very few things that have really added to the deck since Manascape Refractor.
With the Zendikar Rising spoilers though there are a few cards that stick out that deserve a mention as being potentially useful in this archetype:
Now this is very much like Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar except 1 cheaper and with no ability to recur itself (or bounce lands for discarding). That said it does ramp. In this particular deck I would have to say that the only way to really generate creatures quickly is Avenger of Zendikar, and even then they will have summoning sickness.
This card has a lot of utility, the land is slow but it's an effect in a pinch. The only thing I will say to its greatest detriment is that it doesn't count as a land in the graveyard and cannot be searched like one. That said it's a pretty good filter/land combo.
Pretty much an easier Eternal Witness on top of that the other side is a land, which can really help smooth out the mana on opening hands. Still not a land card in the library or graveyard which is a pain but it's about as easy to search up in this deck as an Eternal Witness and it's easier to cast (being one less green mana symbol). Again a candidate for smoothing out mana early game in green (which is the most key ramping colour) or making a landfall trigger on top of being a Regrowth, even if it is a bit more expensive. I honestly think it might be worth a serious thought about replacing Eternal Witness as there is pretty much no reanimation in the deck (unless you are including something like Volrath's Stronghold).
It's a mana dork that can also be a land, potential for a bit of ramp, potential for a landfall trigger, not exciting but certainly worth a mention.
I'm torn about this card because it has all the words but unfortunately it's not really how this kind of deck plays out. There are very few infinite landfall triggers so this is more of a value card. It will annoy and aggravate the board and draw attention to you for very limited gain. You make three landfall triggers in a turn? That's three damage...great, now you have everyone's attention.
If I didn't mention it, someone would bring it up, but this card just doesn't quite work in this deck unless you are a dedicated reanimation build. Play her for 4, drop some land, reanimate something, maybe drop a surprise from the hand once, then she probably dies. I think Nissa, Vital Force is still a much better card for utility being that she can retrieve permanents (including land) and has an ultimate that just works beautifully with the deck. However this new Nissa just doesn't really cut it with the current abilities.
Beautiful card, it's just a shame it's not in GB, still a potentially good choice, the main thing going against it is the lack of land types and having to play it from the graveyard on it's Red facing.
- I want to try adding Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle back into the deck at some point. I think there are enough ways to make everything mountains that it shouldn't be as bad as it was before.
- Still want to add Castle Locthwain into the deck.
- Haven't had time to test Command the Dreadhorde yet but I think it's a good potential addition.
2 weeks ago
unwucht I took your suggestion and removed Llanowar Tribe and Fyndhorn Elder for Avenger of Zendikar and Tooth and Nail. I also chose to remove Nissa, Vital Force and add an Extraplanar Lens and upgraded to Snow-Covered Forest. If I can get the Lens out then it will make up for the two missing mana babies.
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
- If I would ever want to run Nissa, Vital Force, I would probably either cut a card with a similar role or a similar CMC. Garruk, Primal Hunter comes to mind as a slot. Krosan Tusker or Tendershoot Dryad might also be contenders.
- To my knowledge there is no other land in the game that allows you to bounce and play it multiple times to ramp like crazy. Of course you can do something a bit similar with Gruul Turf and Amulet of Vigor like in amulet-bloom decks, but Amulet of Vigor does not sit in the command zone. Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip is similar to Cradle, but cannot be bounced and played in the same way. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx comes ti mind, but that also requires 2 mana to activate, so it is much harder to abuse (and does not synergize with landfall token makers like Field of the Dead). So, I am not aware of a feasible alternative to Gaea's Cradle if you want to combo it with Mina and Denn, Wildborn for more value. Growing rites is probably your best option.
3 weeks ago
2 months ago
If I can piggyback off of DasTree's comment. I would tend to agree.. Even if it becomes the target of a spell, 5 mana (at least in this deck) is a small price to pay in order to rid your opponent of removal. And if it does get removed, you still have the opportunity to recur it with Eternal Witness. In my Omnath deck Omnath Alt Wins, I run Nissa, Vital Force. Normally, I'd just ult her my next turn.. But if doubling season was out when I played her, when I ult her next turn, she survives!
2 months ago
So, I've got a couple of suggestions, just off the top of my head that I think could greatly help you out, in both short term and long term:
-1 Nissa Revane +1 Karn Liberated My reasoning here is relatively simple. You're deck isn't focused on life gain and you don't run Nissa's Chosen. Her ultimate is wonderful, if, you can get there. But I think you can remove her because her ultimate is more of a dream than a reality.
-1 Lotus Cobra +1 Fauna Shaman I personally think that the cobra isnt really needed since you produce so much mana as it is. I think Fauna Shaman personally just helps you get there, a lot faster, and additionally its a Survival of the Fittest on a stick. Never hurts to have a second answer in case your first one gets blown up.
-14 Forest +14 Snow-Covered Forest I see that you're going for the Extraplanar Lens answer here which I can greatly appreciate, but since they are much easier to fins now, I would trade out all of your regular Forests for the Snow-covered Forests, or vice versa.
-1 Nissa, Vital Force +1 Asceticism Outside of the fact that we are dropping a same CMC permanent, I think Asceticism is going to do a LOT more for you in the grand scheme of things. Sure, Nissa, Vital Force makes a hasty, 5/5 elemental land for you, but its not something that I would rely on. The same can be said for her second ability. It's a more expensive Eternal Witness card altogether and I don't think it does enough in the deck to keep its spot. Asceticism protects your creatures in a couple of ways which is extremely advantageous in your case.
Garruk's Uprising is just alright. It does some beneficial things, but not consistently. In some cases, I think you're going to find that the card is just dead in your hand more times than you would like. Another use commented that you need to be running more lands, and I think that that is true to a certain extent. Boseiju, Who Shelters All can let you cast an uncounterable Chord of Calling and more importantly, Tooth and Nail. Not to mention there are just other things in your deck that this also greatly synergies with.
-1 Garruk, Unleashed +1 Wirewood Lodge This Garruk isn't really doing anything for you. I think that he performs rather slow, and there are just better things that you can replace him with. We are still on the topic of lands so I think Wirewood Lodge is a pretty obvious choice. That card has an astronomical amount of value.
-1 Collective Unconscious +1 Maze of Ith Pretty easy reasoning. Maze of Ith helps you not take hits from potent creatures and I think that this card is far more critical than Collective Unconscious. You also have multiple ways to draw. It won't hurt to lose just one of them.
-1 Kogla, the Titan Ape +1 Vigor As much as I think Kogla can do some work, I think Vigor will serve you better. He's a literal pain to get rid of and things only get worse from that point forward. Kogla, the Titan Ape has targeted removal and in some cases I think that you may not be able to target some of your opponents more critical creatures.
-1 Deranged Hermit
+1 Gaea's Herald
While Deranged Hermit is good for some token generation, I don't think he does that much else for you. It may synergy with Earthcraft but that's about it. I would remove him and replace him with Gaea's Herald just because that's more pressure you're putting on your opponents' to deal with you.
-1 Earthcraft +1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre While Earthcraft is a very good card, I don't think the price tag justifies having it in your deck, particularly for what it does. I think adding in the original Ulamog can do just as much, if not more than Earthcraft can for you.