Titanic Ultimatum

Sorcery

Until end of turn, creatures you control get +5/+5 and gain first strike, lifelink and trample.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
PreDH	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

DemonDragonJ on Clash of the Titans

6 months ago

I have replaced Cruel Ultimatum and Titanic Ultimatum with Unite the Coalition and Coalition Victory, which did increase the average converted mana cost of this deck from 4.42 to 4.43, but that is an acceptable increase, since that change also improved the balance of colors in this deck by removing numerous colored mana symbols from the total casting costs of cards in this deck; I shall leave Ruinous Ultimatum in this deck, for the present time, since it is an excellent card that is too good to not include in any deck that supports its colors.

DemonDragonJ on Should I Put Genesis Ultimatum …

7 months ago

I would like to put Genesis Ultimatum into my Progenitus EDH deck, because that deck has a rather high mana curve, and the ultimatum would certainly help with putting the more expensive permanents in that deck onto the battlefield, but I am not certain what card that I should remove to make room for it; both Cruel Ultimatum and Ruinous Ultimatum are too awesome to remove, but Titanic Ultimatum does not seem to be as necessary, especially when I already have Pathbreaker Ibex in that deck.

What does everyone else say, about this subject? Should I put Genesis Ultimatum into my Progenitus deck, and, if so, which card should I remove, to make room, for it? Thank you, very much.

DemonDragonJ on Nature's Bounty

1 year ago

I have just made some major changes to this deck; for the first time ever, I have changed the general of this deck, replacing Uril, the Miststalker with Marath, Will of the Wild, because, while Uril was certainly an excellent general, it did not match the theme of this deck, which contained a mere six auras, whereas Marath does, and, upon making that change, I have decided to further emphasize this deck's theme of +1/+1 counters, specifically, by replacing Armadillo Cloak, Bear Umbra, Runes of the Deus, Scourge of the Nobilis, Shield of the Oversoul, and Snake Umbra with All Will Be One, Cathars' Crusade, Warleader's Call, Fertilid, Kalonian Hydra, and Steelbane Hydra; I had contemplated putting Forgotten Ancient in this deck, but I was not able to find space for it, and I also wish to minimize overlap with or similarities between this deck and my Atraxa, Praetors' Voice EDH deck, and, while this deck does not have quite as great of an emphasis on generating creature tokens as does my Ghired, Conclave Exile EDH deck, I still believe that it has a sufficient focus to justify the inclusion of Warleader's Call, which also has great synergy with Tamanoa. I also replaced Titanic Ultimatum with Pathbreaker Ibex, because the creature can use its ability repeatedly. I had considered putting Cabaretti Ascendancy into this deck, but I feel that this deck does not contain quite a sufficient number of creature cards to justify the inclusion of that card.

Overall, these changes reduced the average converted mana cost of this deck from 40.6 to 4.05, which is only a minimal change, but doing so also reduced the number of colored mana symbols in this deck, which is also a very good thing.

What does everyone else say about this? Do you believe that I did well with overhauling this deck?

EmperorPenguin18 on Voja

1 year ago

Ideas for finishers: Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Titanic Ultimatum, Elven Ambush

Ideas for cuts: Mirror Entity, Idyllic Tutor, Demand Answers, Thrill of Possibility, Fellwar Stone, Gruul Signet, Selesnya Signet, Thought Vessel

KongMing on Saskia the Viking

2 years ago

At this point, you need more field buffs, in order to make your multiple combats even direr.

Akroma's Will is just awesome. Even without doubling combat, if you have Saskia on the field, you will gain A LOT of life.

Bond of Discipline is great for the lifegain too, but Gruul Charm offers you a similar effect (getting creatures through) for cheaper.

Titanic Ultimatum or Beastmaster Ascension might also help you get damage through.

legendofa on New Social Contract Breach Discussion

3 years ago

Gleeock I haven't gotten in a multiplayer game with randoms for years now, I've never played cEDH, and I don't actually have a regular group at the moment (frustration and sadness), so I'm probably out of touch with actual multiplayer reality.

All the same, though, I have a couple of responses. "[T]he only other valid player threw a tantrum & left the game" is not good play. But I take special exception to the tantrum. If, hypothetically, the other player said "I'm afraid I have no chance at winning, I concede. Good game, and well played," would that still be an issue? I understand that the game flow can be radically changed by who's present and available. However, I see the following: conceding gracefully is respectful and legal. Conceding with a tantrum is disrespectful, but legal. Refusing to vote on Expropriate, then continuing to play, is disrespectful and illegal. And 104.3a very much says a player can dip out of it all: "A player can concede the game at any time. A player who concedes leaves the game immediately. That player loses the game."

But the legality of concession isn't really the issue here. The issue is "when is quitting the game right to do?" Instead of directly answering, I'd like to add some supplemental questions, based on this thread and my own thoughts.

1. Is it fair play to concede in response to being attacked? If Gahiji, Honored One Beatdown attacks Tobias Andrion with a Titanic Ultimatum and enough creatures to defeat Tobias, can Tobias concede immediately to avoid the lifelink damage? Does the answer change whether Gahiji is dominating the match at 300 life + board vs. barely hanging on at 4 life and built up a Fervored board this turn?

2. Is it fair play to concede if a player can reasonably expect to be unable to proceed, if an opponent is relying on their presence? If Sen Triplets Stax has stripped all artifact removal from The Lady of the Mountain's deck through Sadistic Sacrament and has taken control of nearly all of The Lady's permanents, can The Lady concede on the grounds that she reasonably believes she can't win, even though it would cost Triplets some key blockers?

3. Is it fair play to concede a game if it forces another player into a line of action? Marisi, Breaker of the Coil Combat Control goads Jedit Ojanen into attacking. During Jedit's first main phase, before Jedit attacks, Barktooth Warbeard gets a critical removal spell countered and decides this game is unwinnable. Is Barktooth free to gracefully and respectfully concede, forcing Jedit to attack the remaining available player?

I don't claim to have objectively correct answers to these questions, but I think they add some needed nuance to the central question of when someone can concede to another person's detriment.

Obviously, conceding shouldn't be done yelling and tableflipping. But assuming a modicum of decency, I think conceding should be available at any time, within the agreement of the group. It can be difficult to determine whether conceding is done tactically, spitefully, or simply to cut losses, and having a pre-match conversation can settle these issues, so that's a point I strongly agree with. In a more competitive setting, I guess leave it to the judges to explain pre-tournament and adjucate as needed? That's outside of my expertise.

m4rs on Ghired - Precon Primal Genesis - Heavy Upgrade

3 years ago

Hi eliakimras,

I was now able to do some playtests with the current set. I still changed some more cards.

Added:

• Elder Gargaroth for Keeper of Fables
  Elder is crazy good, drew it 2 times, and it gave me so much options. for example with token doubler and Elemental Bond or with Quartzwood Crasher.
  
• Exploration for Chrome Mox
  I dont like the Cardloss from the mox, and when I have good card draw, I can get rid of additional lands
  
• Selvala's Stampede for Tendershoot Dryad
  Still not drawn, but this card seems like crazy good. Tendershoot has to less synergy, as it doesnt trigger my 4 power card draws.
• Growing Rites of Itlimoc  ^Flip for a Forest
  probably dumb, still not drawn. I probably have to switch it for a "Ramp" slot. Right now this would probably Sword of Hearth and Home
  
• Kenrith's Transformation for Swords to Plowshares
  I like that kenrith is denying a commander, and no life gain. But you lose instant speed. Still not sure which better
  
• Jeska's Will for Farewell
  Its always easy to cut a Boardwipe, and mostly not the best Idea...2 boardwipes left...but I want to test how Jeska works in this kind of deck.
• Emblem of the Warmind for Rampaging Baloths
  Cheapest "all Creaturs get Haste" card in MTG. Cutting Baloths was not easy and maybe Omnath, Locus of Rage is the better cut, as it is more expensive and harder to cast. never drawn actually. but haste is insane for this deck. so lets give it a try.
• Gisela, Blade of Goldnight for Titanic Ultimatum
  I still waiting for Gisela, so never played it. But for Budget, Titanic is still a very good card. It won me games or saved me from loosing at certain points due to lifelink. Gisela seems more powerful and easier to cast.
• Rishkar's Expertise for Garruk, Primal Hunter or Rampaging Baloths still not sure.
  

Feedback to new or rarely played cards:

• Quartzwood Crasher is insane good. Thematically, and also its easy to get like a 10 or 15/15 Token, which you can copy with ghired, after that its gonna be snowball. Surely one of the best cards in this deck. Similar with Elder Gargaroth
• Selesnya Eulogist: Surprisingly good card, I rarely drew it beside the fact thats it a day 1 card of this deck. But targeting creatures from other graveyards (or the own) to prevent reanimate or similiar, and getting blockers is very good!

Cards I am uncertain:

• Wulfgar of Icewind Dale: he is nice, as I have some cards with attack triggers. But maybe he is too expensive. If he goes out, Rampaging Baloths will come back
  
• Hofri Ghostforge: Only played once, with already strong board. Here he is really nice. best with ETB creatures like Dockside Extortionist with this one i was most sceptical, but I think I will keep him.

Still the deck has a lot of protection, and I am not sure if it too much, but as Ghired is quite expensive, I will right now, not cut a indestructible spell.

About your utility Lands. yeah Gavony Township might be a cool manasink. But Right now I dont have it, as I put it in another deck. also i have a lot of utility lands right now. Kessig wolf run I removed, as having Trample seems no problem in my last plays.

Neotrup on How does a combo with …

4 years ago

If you copy Titanic Ultimatum your creatures will get +10/+10, first strike, lifelink, and trample. Multiple instances of first strike, lifelink, and trample are redundant, so whether your copying the spell or casting it with creatures that naturally have those abilities your not getting any added benefit.