The Lady of the Mountain

Legendary Creature — Giant

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Oldschool 93/94	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (8)

legendofa on New Social Contract Breach Discussion

2 years ago

Gleeock I haven't gotten in a multiplayer game with randoms for years now, I've never played cEDH, and I don't actually have a regular group at the moment (frustration and sadness), so I'm probably out of touch with actual multiplayer reality.

All the same, though, I have a couple of responses. "[T]he only other valid player threw a tantrum & left the game" is not good play. But I take special exception to the tantrum. If, hypothetically, the other player said "I'm afraid I have no chance at winning, I concede. Good game, and well played," would that still be an issue? I understand that the game flow can be radically changed by who's present and available. However, I see the following: conceding gracefully is respectful and legal. Conceding with a tantrum is disrespectful, but legal. Refusing to vote on Expropriate, then continuing to play, is disrespectful and illegal. And 104.3a very much says a player can dip out of it all: "A player can concede the game at any time. A player who concedes leaves the game immediately. That player loses the game."

But the legality of concession isn't really the issue here. The issue is "when is quitting the game right to do?" Instead of directly answering, I'd like to add some supplemental questions, based on this thread and my own thoughts.

1. Is it fair play to concede in response to being attacked? If Gahiji, Honored One Beatdown attacks Tobias Andrion with a Titanic Ultimatum and enough creatures to defeat Tobias, can Tobias concede immediately to avoid the lifelink damage? Does the answer change whether Gahiji is dominating the match at 300 life + board vs. barely hanging on at 4 life and built up a Fervored board this turn?

2. Is it fair play to concede if a player can reasonably expect to be unable to proceed, if an opponent is relying on their presence? If Sen Triplets Stax has stripped all artifact removal from The Lady of the Mountain's deck through Sadistic Sacrament and has taken control of nearly all of The Lady's permanents, can The Lady concede on the grounds that she reasonably believes she can't win, even though it would cost Triplets some key blockers?

3. Is it fair play to concede a game if it forces another player into a line of action? Marisi, Breaker of the Coil Combat Control goads Jedit Ojanen into attacking. During Jedit's first main phase, before Jedit attacks, Barktooth Warbeard gets a critical removal spell countered and decides this game is unwinnable. Is Barktooth free to gracefully and respectfully concede, forcing Jedit to attack the remaining available player?

I don't claim to have objectively correct answers to these questions, but I think they add some needed nuance to the central question of when someone can concede to another person's detriment.

Obviously, conceding shouldn't be done yelling and tableflipping. But assuming a modicum of decency, I think conceding should be available at any time, within the agreement of the group. It can be difficult to determine whether conceding is done tactically, spitefully, or simply to cut losses, and having a pre-match conversation can settle these issues, so that's a point I strongly agree with. In a more competitive setting, I guess leave it to the judges to explain pre-tournament and adjucate as needed? That's outside of my expertise.

Idoneity on None

3 years ago

The set of Legends introduced both Legendary creatures and multi-coloured cards into the game. More important is the second for the sake of this comment.

Dakkon Blackblade , of the same set as Halfdane , oddly adheres to what we see today of the ordering, being .

Lady Evangela bears the mana cost of .

More inconsistencies can be seen in Sol'kanar ()and Tetsuo Umezawa (), Xira Arien () and Vaevictis (), and, lastly, Angus () and Ragnar ().

Oddly enough, all of the four Naya legends ( Johan , Jacques , Palladia-Mors , and Hazezon Tamar) have the same colour ordering.

All of the two-colour combinations (except for Rakdos ?) are backwards from what we see today, yet are all constant.

The Dark's Scarwood Gobbo () is similar to Legends' mana costs, an ensample being The Lady of the Mountain () (my favourite card of all time).

The afield system seems to have been rectified in Ice Age, for it had Centaur Archer (), Diabolic Vision (), and Chromatic Armor ().

(Legends had Jedit Ojanen ())

My concensus here is that WOTC did not have much of a grasp as to amounts and mana costs in the debut set, whereupon inconsistencies may be seen about the expansion, yet they righted this two releases later.

Not much is actually in this comment, but others may use this information as they wish to sieve through Magic's multi-coloured monstrosities.

Caerwyn on The Prismatic Piper

3 years ago

DeinoStinkus

Barktooth Warbeard, Chandler, Jedit Ojanen, Jerrard of the Closed Fist, Joven, Lady Orca, Ramirez DePietro, Sir Shandlar of Eberyn, Sivitri Scarzam, The Lady of the Mountain, Tobias Andrion, and Torsten Von Ursus would like a word!

CatPepPop on Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh (Planeswalker Tribal)

3 years ago

Thanks :-) I'm giddy with the thought of having an army of Chandras on board. I think Chandras are the most common PW and one I most one to build (though a battalion of Gideons is also funny). Figuring out the curve/balance on this will be little challenging. I'm going to fiddle around with it some and appreciate the suggestions.

I started adding some cards into inventory and it's giving me an estimate of what it would cost to buy the remaining cards, which is nice. Maybe there will be some sweet card upgrades with the Chandra Spellbook coming out next month.

There's a number of red decks I've been thinking about and might try developing some and putting them up here. The Lady of the Mountain would be cool flavor but probably not enough to bother. I want also want to a double themed deck with double damage, double strike, double attacks, probably with Obosh, the Preypiercer. I've been think about a Sneak Attack type deck with Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded or Feldon of the Third Path. Probably similar kinds of deck building and balance issues for both or monored generally.

DaringApprentice on All Possible Commanders

7 years ago

These are all the Azorius commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Ayesha Tanaka, Gosta Dirk, Hunding Gjornersen, Ith, High Arcanist, Jedit Ojanen, Kasimir the Lone Wolf, and Tobias Andrion.

These are all the Dimir commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Circu, Dimir Lobotomist, Nebuchadnezzar, Princess Lucrezia, Ramirez DePietro, Riven Turnbull, Sivitri Scarzam, and Ur-Drago.

These are all the Rakdos commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Axelrod Gunnarson, Barktooth Warbeard, Lady Orca, Pavel Maliki, Rakdos the Defiler, and Rohgahh of Kher Keep.

These are all the Gruul commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Jerrard of the Closed Fist, Livonya Silone, Marhault Elsdragon, Stangg, Sunastian Falconer, and The Lady of the Mountain.

These are all the Selesnya commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Daughter of Autumn, Gabriel Angelfire, Jasmine Boreal, Kei Takahashi, Lady Caleria, Lord Magnus, Sir Shandlar of Eberyn, and Torsten Von Ursus.

These are all the Orzhov commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Selenia, Dark Angel.

These are all the Golgari commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Iname as One, Rhys the Exiled, and Thelon of Havenwood.

These are all the Boros commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Munda, Ambush Leader.

These are all the Grixis commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Mishra, Artificer Prodigy.

These are all the Jund commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Bartel Runeaxe.

These are all the Naya commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Jacques le Vert.

These are all the Five-Colored commanders I could find that weren't in your list: Atogatog.

KIngWiggins on 20 Legends, 5 Decks

8 years ago

I love this idea, I wish I could myself.
Personally, I would do, for preference and flavor reasons:
Ramirez DePietro
Lord Magnus
The Lady of the Mountain
Jedit Ojanen
Lady Orca

I am tempted to make a deck now with one of the legends and use only old bored cards.

xavrr on Depressing Flavor Text

8 years ago

The Lady of the Mountain

Cursed Ronin

Commander Greven il-Vec

Wandering Ones over Blessed Spirits

yavimaya_eldred on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

8 years ago

@Squirrel_of_War Garbage is garbage, it shouldn't matter if something is slightly less garbage than something else. Tiers 1-4 are the cards that are playable, Tier 5 is stuff you just shouldn't ever consider whether it has a text box or not. Is Darigaaz better than Lady Orca? Sure, but why does that matter? You shouldn't run it under any circumstance. The other tiers don't have that problem. Angus Mackenzie is lower in power level than Derevi, Emperial Tactician, but you can at least debate why you'd rather play an Angus style deck since it's still a fine card on its own and asks something different of you than Derevi does. Tier five cards don't belong in such arguments, since they're just so bad that you can't make a legitimate argument to run them.

@NoOneOfConsequence There was a way to clean up tier three without adding another tier. Setting aside that tier three is likely to be crowded anyway since that's where the average cards are going to end up, discussion is a better way to deal with it than adding more sections. Morinfen and The Lady of the Mountain being in different tiers just because one has a text box and the other doesn't is just silly.