Creature — Spirit

Whenever a noncreature source you control deals damage, you gain that much life.

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Set Rarity
Coldsnap (CSP) Rare

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Format Legality
Block Constructed Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Highlander Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Unformat Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Noble Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Legacy Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Leviathan Legal

Rules Q&A

Tamanoa Discussion

Last_Laugh on what is everyone's opinion on ...

2 weeks ago

Accepted Then = Accepted Now

Tamanoa I also have 0 problems with and I'm sure there's other non-legendary creatures I wouldn't care about either.

dbpunk on Legendaries who shouldn't be legendary?

2 months ago

So theres been plenty of talks about nonlegendaries who should be legendary (looking at you Tamanoa) or nonlegendary cards who could be potentially used as commanders (like the Nephilim cycle before we had C17 or whichever introduced the 4 color legends) but what legendaries do you think arent as legendary as they should be? What legendary creatures do you think don't stand up to the task of being legendary creatures, much less commanders? Like the ability just might not feel powerful enough or it could be so similar to other abilities that it just doesnt feel legendary. One of my choices would be Kwende, Pride of Femeref.

Bonus points if you dont use a vanilla legendary like Barktooth Warbeard.

fadelightningmm on LGS has a Problem Player...what ...

6 months ago

Regardless of whether or not WOTC wanted to make Tamanoa legendary or not the card does not have that word in the type box. It also does not have the phrase “this card can be used as your commander”. Before the game starts tell this person hey that’s not a legal deck. Make sure the rest of the pod is also down for a legal game. Playing cards that are illegal or used illegally definitely adds an asterisk to the game, and my opinion is in fun. If the person wants to run Naya stax have him place a different creature in the command zone that is real.

TLDR: communication is key. Talk to your play group if they sit down with something the play group should self regulate

TypicalTimmy on LGS has a Problem Player...what ...

6 months ago

I just thought of another potential solution:

If this guy insists on playing Tamanoa , who is an illegal Commander, why not go for broke and just have the group build non-legal Commander decks?

Then everyone is on the same level of sleezyness?

My vote goes to Maelstrom Archangel . Cheat ya big bois into play and take all the extra turns .

Snake_Oil on LGS has a Problem Player...what ...

6 months ago

Tamanoa itself in my opinion is a fine commander, as long as the playgroup accepts it's use, much like the Nephilim in that regard. That's one thing. (IIRC it's one of the few creatures they've legitimately said they wish had been legendary when they made it -- Tamanoa is an important entity in the Ice Age/Coldsnap Saga)

Playing stax in a social, casual manner is just... Ugh. There's slowing down the game -- No issues with that, things coming in tapped and the like, there's creating hurdles and restrictions -- Prison, hatebears, additional mana cost effects and such, and then there's just being needlessly douchey with full-on, hard stax.

Stuff like Overabundance and Manabarbs in Tamanoa is expected, it's part of the fun you can get value off of them for once instead of it being a race against time to ramp hard and win (which is it's own kind of fun, to be fair).

If he doesn't understand WHY he's being hated out of the game, you need to be as clear and frankly blunt as possible -- "Playing against this deck and this commander IS NOT FUN.". Silver Bullets and playerbaiting is only going to make the situation worse. At least by being honest and not resorting to underhanded methods you're justified if he ever starts badmouthing you.

At best, being honest and asking him to build something/anything else for a change might be beneficial both for your play environment and to the player himself. It might take a while, or be a very gradual change (like him playing GAAIV for a while...) but some change is better than a bad one.

If he doesn't respond well to your honesty and concern, then... I'm sorry, this person might not be good for your playgroup.

Gleeock on LGS has a Problem Player...what ...

6 months ago

Last_Laugh If the guy uses the same deck without modification repeatedly, with similar results repeatedly, then you shift your deck and strategy accordingly, this is not "hating him off the table", it is forcing him to shift with a meta that has caught wise to his repetitive behavior through the best way possible: action. As far as targeted hate goes against true "stax on steroids" that may be a losing battle with all that 1:1 trading (depending on the deck), that may be okay as long as you are cool taking him down with you. Focusing too much on Tamanoa istelf vs. the parity-breaking stax elements will not address the continued mind-numbing game delay & slow locks. I've just found really strong stax to be pretty strong against conventional decks & less strong against unconventional & gifting strategies & this isn't "planning with opponents" this is in-game wisdom.. This guy locks down a game with Winter Orb , Hokori, Dust Drinker , etc.. ok, so you cast a legit politics-based spell, or free up resources for everyone. Where do you think freeplay creatures for all, scheming symmetry, etc... should be pointed? I never recommended to: sit down & table talk with opponents but using cards to free up resource restrictions & therefore letting others play some of their decks can gain you a unique resource advantage: other players, at least temporarily. Throwing that spice in your gumbo will also provide those more crazy-swingy game vibes & less of that stagnant "why did I start another game with this guy?" vibe.

Vimozahr on LGS has a Problem Player...what ...

6 months ago

General Tamanoa is legal in Commander but, not as Commander. He can take her in his 99.

Its ok to say "Its unfun for us to play Magic because your General is not a preferred Style to Win a Game."

But its Part of this Game, also Landdestrucktion like Armageddon - No one likes it. People dont like it. Also a legit Wincon. But a fucking Lategame Cyclonic Rift for Overloard is okay.

In my opinion both close the Game.

Rabid_Wombat on LGS has a Problem Player...what ...

6 months ago

We have got this guy at my locals who insists on only playing Tamanoa every...single...game (which is not even a legal Commander for fricks sake).

That in itself would not really be a problem but his deck is Stax on steroids - packed full of Winter Orb , Root Maze , Stranglehold , Blind Obedience etc... you get the idea.

His wincon is to lock down everyone then play damage dealing effects like Ankh of Mishra , Manabarbs , Citadel of Pain and a whole heap of others then gain tons of life.

If anyone attacks him he whines and says "Why do you keep targeting me?!?" I flat out said to him: "Dude, you are fking my sh*t up - that's why."

How can I tell him, in the nicest way possible, that his deck sucks ass and I refuse to play against it ever again?

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