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Enchantment — Aura
Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has trample.
Whenever enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life.
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Armadillo Cloak Discussion
1 month ago
Here's some suggestions based on my own experience with Voltron Karona:
Vow of Duty is pretty useless on Karona as she doesn't really benefit from Vigilence. Run Vow of Wildness instead--Trample is fantastic when you're trying to force through commander damage, and that extra +1/+1 makes a difference.
Howling Mine is an incredibly mediocre card. For card draw, I would recommend running enchantresses--Argothian Enchantress, Eidolon of Blossoms, Mesa Enchantress, and Verduran Enchantress are all strong options.
Canopy Cover is an interesting little card. Unlike most enchantments, it does not give the creature hexproof. As such, your opponents cannot target Karona when she is under their control, but you can still enchant her. That it adds evasion is just a nice extra touch.
Armadillo Cloak gives a nice boost to power, the invaluable trample, and lets you heal whenever Karona attacks.
Ethereal Armor is an explosive card, capable of quickly ending games.
If you are curious, here is my Voltron Karona deck. It might provide some other ideas:
Commander / EDH
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1 month ago
Quick question--are you looking for suggestions, or is it your intent to just play with your favourite cards?
One minor change I'd highly recommend--cutting Vow of Duty and Vow of Malice. Both provide little benefit when attached to Karona, and there are plenty of more fun cards to take their place. One I'd highly recommend is Armadillo Cloak--you get to gain life whenever Karona attacks, and can even place it on an enemy threat to encourage attacks elsewhere.
1 month ago
So I have a Uril deck that I have been working on for a while so I am going to make some suggestions to take out, the reason why, and then will give some cards I feel you should use if you can get ahold of them. So some general suggestions is to avoid fieldwipes that also hurt you a lot, secondly run very few creatures. Honestly mana dorks and the enchantress' are all that I really run so the major suggestion I would say is to cut down on the creatures and mostly leave dorks/enchantress' like Mesa Enchantress or things like Herald of the Pantheon which make auras cheaper. Another thing are instants and sorceries, the majority of those should be targeted removal and mass removal or land grab spells like Swords to Plowshares, Day of Judgment, or Rampant Growth. Some specifics on those are Titanic Ultimatum isn't awesome if you only have one creature, which is all you generally need to win. (Uril, the Miststalker) Including the other pump spells i would say aren't great with Uril because he pumps so much anyways. Predator's Rapport isn't a terrible one as it can get you some life if you need but their might be a better option if you really want to keep that in. Alright, on to the enchantments. I would say that out of auras, Ancestral Mask and Bear Umbra are your best two, the others I like are Dryad's Favor and Indestructibility and finally Rancor. Other than those three I would say most of your aura's are just a tad weak. Out of normal enchantments I would almost avoid these with a fiery passion, other than protection of course. I would say Oblivion Ring is the only one I for sure would say to keep in (yes I know it's an aura but you don't target uril with it.). Other than those I would say that you mostly want auras, other than removal or extremely powerful cards. Alright, on to suggestions: The major suggestions I would make for auras would be these Armadillo Cloak, Ethereal Armor, Flickerform, Runes of the Deus, Scourge of the Nobilis, Shield of the Oversoul, Spectra Ward, Spirit Mantle, Unquestioned Authority, and finally Vow of Wildness along with any of the umbras. (boar, spider, and hyena for example.) Some normal enchantments I like are: Burgeoning for ramp, Dueling Grounds and Ghostly Prison for protection. Also, Mayael's Aria and Sigil of the Empty Throne for alternate win cons and finally Sterling Grove for search and protection. The artifacts should be general ramp or mana fixing with maybe a Helm of the Gods for boosting. The wipes I use are Austere Command for when you really run into crap and Winds of Rath and Divine Reckoning because they don't normally hit uril so he doesn't die. I use Retether and Open the Vaults for recursion and Enlightened Tutor and Three Dreams for tutor and my two targeted removal is just Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile. Those are just my general suggestions. If you want to look at my deck you can go to Uril the miststalker
1 month ago
I'm a huge fan of Karona, and also use a pillowfort/Voltron build on her. Here are some suggestions based on my own experiences:
Karona is a huge investment, so it's helpful to have some ways to protect her. Canopy Cover is probably my favourite. Most enchantments give either Hexproof or Shroud. These are both problematic--opponents can target a Hexproof Karona when they control her, and a Shrouded Karona can't be further enchanted. Canopy Cover ensures you are the only player who can target her, regardless of her controller, and adds some evasion to boot.
Ethereal Armor ends games, easily giving a +5/+5 bonus by the time you are ready to cast it.
Karona is very difficult to cast, and even more difficult to field. I've found it's very useful to have other cards that can close out the game. Chromanticore gives you a lot of value, and can even double as an aura if needed. Sigil of the Empty Throne can quickly grow out of control, producing a bunch of strong flying blockers, or an army of tribal angels to be boosted by Karona--whatever the situation requires.
Starfield of Nyx recurs your enchantments and can turn them into a powerful win condition.
Armadillo Cloak is an interesting little toy, as it gives the aura's controller the health, as opposed to giving Karona Lifelink (thus benefiting Karona's controller). It's a pretty solid way to rack up some health during your opponents' turns.
I'd recommend running enchantment-based ramp over artifact ramp. It has better synergy with the rest of your deck, particularly if you add enchantresses.
For some cards I would cut:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight - great card, but I don't think it is necessary. While she can help speed up a game, your opponents will control Karona a large portion of the time. Your commander taking double damage most of the game is problematic.
Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer is a bit too slow for my taste. He comes out at turn 3 at the earliest without doing anything notable, takes another turn and more mana to activate, and dies to most every removal spell in-game, rending the investment worthless.
Tatyova, Benthic Druid - another wonderful card that doesn't work well in this deck. While it gives utility to the lands you draw in the later stages, you'll probably want to cast other cards on turn five.
Totem-Guide Hartebeest - this is a card I tested out in early iterations of my deck, and I found it awful. By the time I could cast it, I always had something better to do, and had likely already drawn and played a better tutor. Ultimately it came out to a 2/5 vanilla creature that languished in my hand.
Hopefully some of that helps. If you're curious, here is my decklist: Pinball Wizard - Karona, False God EDH.
1 month ago
This deck is super, super cool! One of the coolest I've seen, and such a breath of fresh air among all the boring carbon copy decks out there.
It looks like you're maintaining a strict budget, but if you ever decided to break it, Godsend seems like it'd be rad in here.
Awesome deck, great job!
1 month ago
I'm a huge fan of Armadillo Cloak in GW Slivers decks. The life gain is huge in a lot of aggro matchups and trample can allow you to get damage in against decks that are going to produce large amounts of blockers.
1 month ago
This is where I really don't know what's best. I suggest experimenting for yourself / references other lists, but I can at least offer what I think would be best.
One option is to play some instant speed interaction, be it Vines of Vastwood or Mutagenic Growth. I've seen some people do it. Obviously you want to keep creature count as high as possible for Lead the Stampede, so numbers here are questionable.
If you want to move spinnerets in and simply need more sideboard slots, there are a TON of good options. Like seriously, there are a million good choices in your colors, just depends on which matchups you want to prepare most for. Standard Bearer is among the best sideboard cards in the format, because it forces your opponent to interact with it before they interact with your important creatures. Think of it as pauper Spellskite. It also steals auras from the Bogles deck, and that deck literally doesn't play removal for standard bearer, so if you get it in it's gg. They are kind of expensive online, but for good reason. If you don't want to play them starting out, that's understandable.
Sunlance is great as another removal spell outside of Journey to Nowhere. I've seen some people jam 4 of these in the board to fight against mono green stompy.
The instant speed interaction I mentioned earlier could also go in these slots. You have vines in there now, but mutagenic growth is a decent consideration in some of those slots as well, especially since Firebolt is a pretty common removal spell.
Life Goes On and Armadillo Cloak are the best ways to gain life against hyper aggressive decks / burn. Not really sure which one is better to run. Life goes on has less strings attached, but armadillo cloak helps you end the game.
Scattershot Archer is the bane of delver / faerie decks. Again, I've seen people jam 4, but who knows if that's best.
Holy Light destroys token decks or decks that play a ton of 1 toughness guys, like elves or something.
Relic of Progenitus is the best thing for removing graveyards, but there are noooot a lot of graveyard decks, honestly. The premier graveyard deck revolves around Tortured Existence, meaning that you would probably be fine just bringing in gleeful sabotage. Theres also decks that revolve heabily around returning spells with Mnemonic Wall, but I think you're better off trying to race those.
I... think that's most of the super good ones? There's always the circle cycle too, such as Circle of Protection: Red, but leaving mana open on your opponent's turn is generally not how you want to be playing the game. But yeah, maybe try putting the spinnerets in and tweaking your sideboard using some of these. Again, I would say it entirely depends on the kind of matchups you're expecting.
If you're not sure what to expect, I might start somewhere like this:
3-4 Gleeful Sabotage
3-4 Standard Bearer (they're just so versatile, they're good in a lot of matchups)
2-3 Sunlance / Journey to Nowhere (if you decide to leave them in the side)
1-2 Armadillo Cloak
1-2 Pay no Heed
3-4 Vines of Vastwood / Mutagenic Growth
That should give you good coverage of a lot of different archetypes. It'll just take some experimenting to find what you like best.
2 months ago
Vow of Duty and Vow of Malice are next to useless on Karona. Yes, they prevent her from attacking you, but vigilence and intimidate provide little added utility. I would consider instead adding some more efficient tutors and Armadillo Cloak (since, unlike lifelink, the cloak allows you to be the recipient of health).
Otherwise, you have a very, very high curve, and little in the way of win conditions. I think you should cut a large number of your larger, more flashy cards, and focus on the early game. I also think you are a bit too kind to your opponents, and grant too many boons (many of which seem to benefit them as much, if not more, than yourself). Unlike wizzard90, I do believe in the power of a good prison deck; but I do agree with the statement that they are not infallible.
Here are some suggestions:
Copy Enchantment provides wonderful flexibility.
Darksteel Mutation, Imprisoned in the Moon, and Song of the Dryads are excellent removal spells, as they can permanently cripple an enemy commander (they do not result in a zone change, so your enemy cannot bounce their commander to the command zone).
Ethereal Armor is incredibly strong in an enchantment-based deck.
Sylvan Library is a fantastic card.
Defense of the Heart is great, particularly as you have several high-mana targets.
If you are curious, here is my take on an enchantress Karona deck: Pinball Wizard - Karona, False God EDH. Unlike your Group Hug plan, I use her as a Voltron commander, but you still might find some enchantment-based cards that tickle your fancy.