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Steel Sabotage Discussion
2 months ago
3 months ago
I will start out by saying that some of the suggestions made by the EDH player aren't great--no offense intended, of course, but some are just too slow for modern. Dropping any number of Spellstutter Sprite, Fatal Push, Remand, or Spell Snare is just a bad choice; the Sprite is a cornerstone of all Faerie decks (and even some competitive non-faerie tempo decks), Fatal Push is literally the best black removal spell right now, and Remand and Spell Snare are both staples in blue decks. I assume he suggested dropping those for hard counters that can hit higher-converted mana cost cards because they're good in EDH, but three mana counterspells are pretty much a no-go in modern because they're too slow and much of the time Mana Leak is a hard counter.
Anyways, your deck is shaping up pretty nicely so far. I'd play the full set of Remand because it's so powerful, but that's personal preference. Your sideboard could use a lot of work. Here are some suggestions along with a general outline for your sb:
2-3 Counters for interactive matchups: Countersquall, Negate, Dispel, Spell Pierce, maybe an extra Spell Snare (it's very good when you're on the draw g2, good enough to warrant a sb slot though not essential)
Collective Brutality has been bolded because it's honestly the best sideboard card in black, and is the primary source of life gain in black decks. it's amazing against burn and pretty good against most other decks.
4 months ago
Modern decks can only have 15 cards in sideboard you have 17 also Steel Sabotage is really bad against decks that don't play artifacts, and something I would only play in sideboards
5 months ago
Xica yeah you make a good point, I will look at that. Very interesting.
shaistyone I don't think Steel Sabotage is too special. For countering I would just use Ceremonious Rejection. I already run several counterspells, and Hurkyl's Recall I think does the bouncing job fine.
5 months ago
1 year ago
I did say it was a ton:
Arbor Elf x5, Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle, Misdirection (masques), Dakmor Salvage x3 (2 FUT, 1 DD), Sudden Shock x2, Wild Nacatl x2, Qasali Pridemage, Martyr of Sands x2, Nimble Mongoose, Thought Scour x4 (3 DKA, 1 DD), Skred x4, Kor Firewalker x4, Zealous Persecution x2, Firespout, Magma Jet (DD), Dissipate x2 (M15), Darksteel Citadel x2, Breakthrough (CNS), Sakura-Tribe Elder x4, Duress x4 (M13), Sulfur Elemental x2, Vapor Snag, Ornithopter x4, Wipe Away, Mystical Teachings x2, Boreal Druid x3, Volcanic Fallout (CNS), Ingot Chewer x4, Empty the Warrens x4, Punishing Fire x4, Condemn x4, Dragon's Claw x4, Combust x4, Elvish Visionary x4, Farseek x4, Edge of Autumn x4 (FUT), Repeal x4 (GPT), Think Twice x4 (TSP), Intangible Virtue x4, Raise the Alarm x2, Celestial Purge x4, Ray of Revelation (JUD), Apostle's Blessing x4, Patrician's Scorn x4 (FUT), Wispmare x4, Leonin Relic-Warder x2, Izzet Staticaster, Grapple with the Past x3, Take Inventory x2, Steel Sabotage x4, Zulaport Cutthroat x2, Blessed Alliance, Lightning Storm, Welding Jar, Stubborn Denial, Dispel (2 RTR, 2 BFZ), Faerie Macabre x2, Tuktuk Scrapper, and Energy Flux
That's everything I have that's unlisted from your wants. Everything that's listed as a match I checked to make sure I still have, so request anything. There are a few cards that I've offered to other people for trades, so if you want them I'll wait a day or two on their reply (specifically, the Eldrazi Displacers you mentioned).
Since you mentioned edition, I tried to be accurate on what printing each card is with these. I can't guarantee that everything in my binder is 100% accurate on edition, but I try to do my best to make sure each card is at least showing the correct art and card frame.
Cards of yours I'm specifically interested in are: Diabolic Intent, 2 Stoneforge Mystics, Gate to Phyrexia, Monastery Mentor, 2 Toxic Deluge, Forbidden Orchard, and Quirion Ranger, though of course I'll trade for any other matches as well.
Hope to hear from you.
1 year ago
Thanks for the advice Pyranem!
So I did some testing with your suggestions, and here's what I discovered:
Manamorphose helps storm, but doesn't do anything with Paradoxical Outcome, so it's not quite as good as I wanted it to be. I kept thinking I've seen it be better, but then remembered that's when Pyromancer Ascension is online.
Finally, I really wanted to like Riddlesmith since it would simplify my manabase, but compared to Contraband Kingpin it leads to me losing card advantage. I'll explain. In testing, pitching a card to Riddlesmith allowed me to churn through my deck and find answers, while also allowing me to actually have the answer in hand when I needed it. But, it has the downside of needing a card to pitch. The land scenario you mentioned is really uncommon, since the combo frequently goes off T4 - so I end up having to pitch other cards. With Contraband Kingpin I still have a body in play and the cards in hand while I search, so I can keep the scry train rolling. A small difference perhaps, but noticeable.
Anyway, thanks for the input I really do appreciate it.
1 year ago
Contraband Kingpin has a great body, but if you wanted to go more all-in on the strategy, then Riddlesmith is almost always better, since it helps you exchange the lands in your hand for more artifacts. The only problem is that it can't block for you during the early game, so it's really a matter of preference. Mirran Spy could work in conjunction with Paradise Mantle, but that's iffy. You should probably run something to kill an opponent's Chalice of the Void in the sideboard, like Steel Sabotage (which can also be fetched with Merchant Scroll, so that your deck doesn't get shut down. Have you considered running Manamorphose? You already have 8 possible green/red mana sources, and it's pretty much one of the best cards for any sort of storm deck, regardless that it's not an artifact. Anyways, I really like the deck!.