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Squall Line deals X damage to each creature with flying and each player.
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Squall Line Discussion
6 days ago
When putting in Lignify I was considering using Song of the Dryads however through playtesting I quickly realized how easily song gave a much-added benefit over lignify. The way I view Song isn't just as a removal but I'm ramping my opponent for free. If my opponent's deck already doesn't require the commander or whatever card I'm removing in order to function then why am I also giving them a basic land for it? I came to the conclusion that just removing the card with no added benefit for the player with a 1 mana reduced cost becomes helpful in the early game. The blocker doesn't really matter because when I finally swing at that player it will be with Eldrazi's and 20/20 trample and/or indestructible creatures. The additional land though could prove troublesome 9 out of 10 times in my experience.
However Primal Surge seems like ti could more likely hit 3-4 creatures then dud out.
1 week ago
1 week ago
@SynergyBuild: Heroic Intervention negates Wrath effects and can protect the deck's smaller creatures, so it's easily superior to Not of This World in most normal situations. (NoTW's cost reduction is meaningless because an Omnath deck already should have boatloads of mana if Omnath is on the board.)
As for recommendations, Tibus, have you considered Song of the Dryads over Lignify? I have a soft spot for Lignify for flavor reasons, but it seems that leaving them with a chump blocker is worse than giving them an extra forest.
If you're looking for more mana sinks, Primal Surge and Praetor's Counsel are pretty strong cards that you shouldn't have a problem casting in this deck. Squall Line can be a legitimate kill card in this deck as well.
2 months ago
Commander / EDH
SCORE: 4 | 7 COMMENTS | 207 VIEWS
Feel free to give suggestions too if Esper is your thing.
You're absolutely right about the heavy reliance on Tatyova as the main card draw engine. I've very little protection for her though (only a handful of Counterspells and Sylvan Safekeeper as the main protector). With a good draw, this deck threatens to win on turns 4/5, or even as early as turn 3 so I didn't invest heavily in her protection.
In the unfortunate event she gets removed, I'd continue ramping and the next time I cast her, will be the turn I try to combo off for the win.
You're right that Hurricane and Squall Line are double-edged weapons and I do take damage from them too. Glacial Chasm is my protection against cases whereby I've less HP than opponents. The lifegain from Tatyova helps alot and more often than not, I'd have the most HP in the group (unless there're dedicated life gain decks around).
I've considered Mana Breach before but it fits better in a control archetype whereas this deck is combo based. Very often, I can cast 10-20 spells a turn while comboing off and Breach would actually hamper this as it'd return all my lands to my hand, stopping the combo (e.g. I'd have no more lands to untap via Turnabout).
Horn of Greed is an interesting card. It could be a redundancy for my commander if she gets removed too often and becomes too expensive to recast. Good suggestion, I'd try to grab hold of one!
You're absolutely right that Words of Wind doesn't allow us to target which permanent gets returned, however my aim is to return as many permanents as possible within the same turn. Opponents' mana base will be severely crippled once they start to return several lands per turn as most of them can only lay 1 land each turn. Most opponents would scoop up once this lock is established.
For the land ramp spells, all spells are under consideration as I try to find the best ones for the deck. I'd really like to try out Philoctetes's pet card Pir's Whim and some of those you've suggested above. Please keep the suggestions coming!
Speaking of Carpet of Flowers, I do have mono-blue players in my play groups so it's a possible include. It's under my KIV list atm. I do try to make the deck as generic as possible, being able to handle most decks without having to swap cards in and out depending on match up.
As for Stroke of Genius vs Blue Sun's Zenith, both have their merits and it boils down to personal preference. I just prefer Stroke's base cost of over Blue's . In times when I want to mill my opponents, I agree that Blur is better likely you rightly pointed out. Cheers!
I've opted to go with a Spellslinger build so am keeping the deck very creature-lite.
This deck doesn't have any "infinite combo" per say and I must say I probably use the words loosely for convenience sake.
Unfortunately, I don't stay in Germany though, else I'd love to meet up for games too. You may want to use the Playtest function that tappedout offers to try this deck out. Hopefully you can draw into an explosive hand and get addicted to this deck as much as I do!
Thank you once again for your suggestions. It is obvious you've put in serious thoughts about each of them and I appreciate it alot!
3 months ago
@davidsays1: Thanks for the feedback! Squall Line is on the "to buy" list. Gotta love those category upgrades. So is Land Tax, and Grand Abolisher- way better than Dosan the Falling Leaf. I just took out Huatli, Radiant Champion, because she was too slow. Mind's Eye could be what I need. We'll see. I like Sword of the Paruns, it's like another Umbral Mantle, and since I'm going for stax, maybe I'll go for it. I also like Sigarda, Host of Herons, but I'll have to do some messing around with the composition and see if I can stay at a low CMC. I make a ton of mana with the deck, so it sbouldn't be too hard to fit her in. What do you think of Angel's Grace?
3 months ago
Squall Line as i noticed its not in the list yet Mind's Eye with all the mana you produce you can draw on opponents turns Sword of the Paruns as another infinite artifact win-con Land Tax my selvala deck runs less lands than yours so it helps me a lot Sigarda, Host of Herons my playgroup runs sacrifice effects it comes in handy for me Grand Abolisher as i dont like opponents doing stuff to stop me from going infinite. Selvala is hands down my favorite deck that i currently own i have a huge winning record with it and i think its fun to ask my friends/opponents to party (parley)