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Squall Line deals X damage to each creature with flying and each player.
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Squall Line Discussion
2 weeks ago
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor: Thank you very much good sir, I appreciate the kind words!! Hopefully one day you join the dark side and embrace combos. :)
Winding Canyons : The deck is actually not starved of this ability. In fact, if you think about it, Command Beacon being on the chopping block is a really good indicator of it. The reason why is because getting rid of Yeva is never a factor because I always unload my hand in response to that removal and she is never out unless I have stuff worthy of being played. That land might be going out for Sunscorched Desert as a Plan D wincon since I don't need Shaman of Forgotten Ways to have haste for me to win at instant speed.
Polukranos, World Eater : My heart breaks. He was in the earlier iterations of the deck as a finisher with Kamahl, Fist of Krosa , unfortunatedly Somberwald Stag eliminated the need for both and it still kills Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir and Linvala, Keeper of Silence (which Polukranos, can't). Meanwhile, I already have Lignify , Song of the Dryads , and Beast Within to deal with them. Torpor Orb has no longer posed as much of a threat with the current state of the deck tbh.
Gaea's Herald : I truly wish I could replace the cat for herald, but as it stands, I play against 3 blue players and it sucks to see a secondary counter which happens quite often actually. Prowling Serpopard is definite security against that.
Once again, thank you very much and for the upvote!
DiverDown: Honestly, I was completely out of my element regarding an approachable budget list, cause I didn't know what that was exactly. Abzkaban was kind enough to point me in a good direction and I personally didn't know whether $200 was too much or not. I'm glad of the amount of people that came out of the woodworks to defend the $200 price tag. Made me feel like I hit the right number at $2 a card. I would love to see the lists you're referring to, btw! To return the favor and I am always down to see a new list. :D
I'm glad you enjoyed both variants of the deck, I worked obsessively long on it, that it is just a delight to read all the positive comments.
Thank you all!! :D
2 weeks ago
First of all, very cool list and nice write up! I am not the best at giving advice on highly tuned decks because I am a filthy casual and generally avoid the combo style of play, but here are some thoughts I had:
Winding Canyons might be a decent replacement for Command Beacon if you end up cutting it. It still provides you with the necessary colorless mana, but it can serve as an additional flash enabler that is harder to deal with than Yeva.
I always advocate for Krosan Grip . Maybe it is too slow (mana wise) for more competitive metas, or maybe I have just been blown out by Food Chain too many times, but split-second seems very relevant in higher powered metas.
Polukranos, World Eater is a bigger, beefier fighter than Somberwald Stag that gets around ETB cancelers like Torpor Orb and flash cancelers like Teferi. Not saying that you replace the Stag, but running them both together might be helpful.
+1 from me.
1 month ago
So far your main game plan seems to be a split of Multani voltron and a tiny sprinkle of landfall effects. Since you are already planning on ramping to increase Multani's power, why not include a big enough force of stompy green creatures?
Cards like Arbor Colossus, Ant Queen, Thragtusk, Endbringer, Hydra Omnivore, Silvos, Rogue Elemental, Elderscale Wurm, Rampaging Brontodon... just adding a decent number of these would help diversify your angle of attack.
You could also include some X-spells as late game haymakers. Gelatinous Genesis, Genesis Wave, Squall Line and Hurricane (You'd probably be safe if you have cards like Miren, the Moaning Well with your commander, of course you should have Life from the Loam to recur it!).
2 months ago
Squall Line could be of use. It's an instant speed hurricane for one green more than its' sorcerous cousin.
2 months ago
Consistency means two things.
The first is redundancy of effect. The more cards you have of a similar effect, the more reliably you can access it in a game. Check out the 8x8 model and think of what effects you wish to be able to access every game. (Please do include removal as one of the effect groups!)
The second is draw (which should be included in one of the 8x8 effect groups). The more draw you have, the more cards you can see in each game and the more effects you get to access. GW is quite weak on draw effects, but there are some notable cards like Sylvan Library. Since you're playing a stompy creatures kinda deck you can also consider Elemental Bond, Garruk's Packleader, Soul of the Harvest, Drumhunter, Triumph of Ferocity etc.
You also need to pick cards good for your gameplan. If your main game plan is to beat down with stompy creatures you do not need much land. Putting too many creatures above 6 mana would wreck your curve (I recommend making most of your force the 5 mana range). What are you planning to use Karametra for then? You can put a landfall theme (but there aren't really too many great landfall cards) or maybe you can put in some really powerful X-cost spells that give your deck inevitability in the late game. For example, a huge Decree of Justice, Gelatinous Genesis, Genesis Wave, Entreat the Angels, maybe even direct burn like Squall Line! Sylvan Awakening after somebody wraths the board also seems sweet!
3 months ago
When putting in Lignify I was considering using Song of the Dryads however through playtesting I quickly realized how easily song gave a much-added benefit over lignify. The way I view Song isn't just as a removal but I'm ramping my opponent for free. If my opponent's deck already doesn't require the commander or whatever card I'm removing in order to function then why am I also giving them a basic land for it? I came to the conclusion that just removing the card with no added benefit for the player with a 1 mana reduced cost becomes helpful in the early game. The blocker doesn't really matter because when I finally swing at that player it will be with Eldrazi's and 20/20 trample and/or indestructible creatures. The additional land though could prove troublesome 9 out of 10 times in my experience.
However Primal Surge seems like ti could more likely hit 3-4 creatures then dud out.
3 months ago
3 months ago
@SynergyBuild: Heroic Intervention negates Wrath effects and can protect the deck's smaller creatures, so it's easily superior to Not of This World in most normal situations. (NoTW's cost reduction is meaningless because an Omnath deck already should have boatloads of mana if Omnath is on the board.)
As for recommendations, Tibus, have you considered Song of the Dryads over Lignify? I have a soft spot for Lignify for flavor reasons, but it seems that leaving them with a chump blocker is worse than giving them an extra forest.
If you're looking for more mana sinks, Primal Surge and Praetor's Counsel are pretty strong cards that you shouldn't have a problem casting in this deck. Squall Line can be a legitimate kill card in this deck as well.
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