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Creature — Hydra
Protean Hydra enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it.
If damage would be dealt to Protean Hydra, prevent that damage and remove that many +1/+1 counters from it.
Whenever a +1/+1 counter is removed from Protean Hydra, put two +1/+1 counters on it at the beginning of the next end step.
Protean Hydra Discussion
1 month ago
The first suggestions are for ur landbase, I think u allready know them and didn´t bought for buget reason, but a solide landbase is important for semicompetitive play at FNM.: - 4x Stomping Ground - 4x Wooded Foothills - 4x Copperline Gorge
Thats a standard aggro/midrange 2clolored competetive manabase.
I would defenitly include 4x Lightning Bolt
Aetherworks Marvel isn´t a good card for this deck there are deck entirly build around it to cheat heavy creature´s into play like this one: My Friendo Emrakul Turn Four!!!. The problem with you´re deck is energy is really only playable in modern with Aetherworks Marvel as a combo piece for giant Eldrazis/Hydra´s, etc. At my FNM you would get wrecked by almost every deck, I know how that feels I came to a Modern Tournament with a casual standard deck at first, it can be really frustrating :D.
Here are cards I would cut for strictly more powerful alternatives:
4 months ago
LupineShadow, you make some good points, especially in the since that Protean Hydra is a counter engine that replaces its own counters when I use them for something. It's just that from my perspective, I don't have enough counter coffers to really feel the need to put in Protean over something I already have. In addition, a couple of my counter coffers let me draw, which I can use on Toothy and replace his counters, and in the case of Give / Take , even more. It isn't so much as he doesn't do the trick as much as I already have something close enough and makes room for something else. It is a great card though, and as I get some more games against my pals down the line, I might end up swapping him in, who knows?
Also, in my Simic Manipulator's defense: I'm only expecting Evolve to trigger once or twice on him on average, since he does get 2 counters from each trigger with Pir down (though sometimes 3 triggers happen too), I have quite a few cards that can grant extra counters or even double them, and that's when you can practically steal anything. You are right though, it is a mid-game style card, even in this counter-craze deck, but taking commanders can really swing games.
4 months ago
LupineShadow, I did look into X cost hydras for this deck, but I didn't include them for these reasons: 1. If you want to use them, it is best to use all of the mana you have for them,and I would rather cast a synergy-based creature (maybe even two) or have mana open for contrips, counterspells, and the like. 2. The creature based is designed to work well with other cards in the deck and my commanders, outside of being only good stand-alone creatures. 3. My self-enforced rule of consistency over decency )you would be surprised how useful this rule can be, though it can be painful at times to be fair) 4. You don't need to pump so much mana into a big-bodied creature when Toothy is all the body you need to end a game. Can get counters even more exponentially than Protean too. Chasm Skulker is another Toothy too.
The only hydras I put in, which are exceptions, are Hydroid Krasis and Kalonian Hydra . Hydroid for the card draw that works for Toothy, and Kalonian for obvious reasons. However, if you REALLY want to put in Protean Hydra, I would recommend using it as a replacement for Biogenic Ooze or maybe Altered Ego , although Altered Ego has value since it can copy commanders. Up to you.
To sum it all up, to me, Protean Hydra just doesn't have as much value overall as the other creatures I have in this deck in its place. And I guess I'm a little picky too.
P.S: If you think Protean Hydra is good, look at Hungering Hydra !
4 months ago
4 months ago
5 months ago
Protean means versatile, like the ability to tutor a ton of different things out.
6 months ago
I would recommend fewer copies of Mistcutter Hydra and possibly more copies of Protean Hydra as the protection from blue that Mistcutter has is kind of a nonbo with Refocus, Vorel and Hadana's Climb Flip
Protean Hydra occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%