Quest for the Nihil Stone

Enchantment

Whenever an opponent discards a card, you may put a quest counter on Quest for the Nihil Stone.

At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, if that player has no cards in hand and Quest for the Nihil Stone has two or more quest counters on it, you may have that player lose 5 life.

Combos

• Painful Quandary + Quest for the Nihil Stone

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

doktoras on Mono Black Pox Control

10 months ago

DreadKhan Thanks for your advice. I will consider very seriously to test first and then put them in the 75 if they perform well, the following 3 cards that you suggested me: Leechridden Swamp Necrogen Mists and Quest for the Nihil Stone.

DreadKhan on Mono Black Pox Control

10 months ago

I'm not sure if you have enough removal here to make them work, but I absolutely loved Phyrexian Totem in my Pox deck, it's an incredibly fast clock if people have an empty board. If you used Shrieking Affliction over The Rack you might try out Leechridden Swamp, these seem too small to matter, but in longer/slower games they are a nice surprise. Leechridden Swamp also likes Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage, which combines a Rack effect with the option of a discard effect, he's also a very good Rack, even at 3 mana.

I don't know what else you should run in their place, but is Fatal Push really a good fit in here? I usually see it run in decks that use Fetchlands. I think I'd just run x4 Sudden Edict and try to keep the board clear, is the targeting that key? There is also Liliana's Triumph and Geth's Verdict that each relevant have upsides and can hit big/durable stuff.

If you don't mind raising your budget a bit (and stay on The Rack) Urza's Saga can find a Rack for you, that's a lot better than paying 4 mana for a Wasteland I'd argue, and that ignores the supply of constructs you can get if you've got nothing better going on.

Have you ever tried out Necrogen Mists? It doesn't work well with stuff like Quest for the Nihil Stone, but it's great with The Rack, once you get one out the opponent no longer can sit on their cards, they only go down without serious card draw.

Really like what you've built, it's always nice to see different takes on the archetypes of Discard and Pox!

dnthymamai on Discard Raven

1 year ago

Nice discard deck! May I also suggest some ideas for the sideboard:

Quest for the Nihil Stone if you find that your opponent's hand empties fast (e.g. they are aggro).

Cabal Therapist for game 2, when you already have information on your opponent's deck.

Unearth for some recursion for your key creature!

wallisface on 12-Rack Ribeye

1 year ago

Cards i’m not a fan of here

• Nezumi Shortfang  ^Flip feels too slow, and justifies all your opponents killspells, which is a problem.

• Quest for the Nihil Stone feels like it will be a terrible draw mid-late game, and has a super-small window of usefulness.

Outside of that, i’m worried you don’t have enough ways to deal with creatures on-board. I think there’s too high-odds the opponent can just beat you down with creatures faster than you can rack-them. Some Fatal Push could help you a lot here.

xSpicyMeat on How Not To MTG

1 year ago

BishopAtavist, thank you for the comment! I have decided to forego Quest for the Nihil Stone in favour of Shrieking Affliction as a more consistent trigger. I have added Strionic Resonator into the sideboard.

BishopAtavist on How Not To MTG

1 year ago

This is a cool deck idea! When I saw Quest for the Nihil Stone, I immediately thought of Strionic Resonator. Paying (2) to do 5 extra damage doesn't seem too shabby. Then I just saw that you were second guessing that card. In which case I would say Strionic also plays well with The Rack, especially if they have no cards in hand.

xSpicyMeat on How Not To MTG

1 year ago

Balaam__, thankyou for the kind words, very much appreciated! :)

I honestly can't remember how I thought this deck up haha. Herald of Anguish is such a specific card to build around.

One thing I'm not too sure on though is Quest for the Nihil Stone as it doesn't fit on theme with the deck.

LoneSniper72 on 12 Rack Diesel

2 years ago

Hey, I love some of the combos that you have in here. I noticed that someone already suggested Waste Not and I also think that it is a huge advantage having it down. Also have you considered Quest for the Nihil Stone? Oppression is also another card similar to Bottomless Pit, I've noticed that it basically makes it so people don't want to play cards so it can also hinder the game some. Another card that could be of some use is Noxious Vapors, it is super deadly against mono color decks. The only other cards that I can think of are Sangromancer and Phyrexian Arena. Sangromancer can basically single-handedly keep someone alive for a ton of turns if you get it down early. Phyrexian Arena I feel is a super competitive card for the amount of advantage it provides.

Good luck with the deck I hope you find maybe one of these suggestions useful :)