Shivan Wumpus

Shivan Wumpus

Creature — Beast

Trample

When Shivan Wumpus enters the battlefield, any player may sacrifice a land. If a player does, put Shivan Wumpus on top of its owner's library.

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Set Rarity
Planar Chaos (PLC) Rare

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Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Shivan Wumpus Discussion

chandra69liliana on Flavor of the Month

3 months ago

i use Manaweft Sliver instead of Gemhide Sliver . only noncreature spells mainboard are Collected Company and Aether Vial . my land destruction deck isn't the typical ponza you see. it goes really heavy on land destruction spells, then beats down with Goblin Dark-Dwellers or Shivan Wumpus . or an Avalanche Riders

Liliana69Chandra on Flavor of the Month

3 months ago

i use Manaweft Sliver instead of Gemhide Sliver . my only mainboard noncreatures are Aether Vial and Collected Company . and my land destruction isn't the typical ponza builds you usually see. it goes super heavy on the land destruction cards to ensure my opponent can't do anything, then beats down with Goblin Dark-Dwellers and Shivan Wumpus

clayperce on Sarkhan420X

5 months ago

You: don't patronize and condescend me with your "cheers" after you basically told me my deck was garbage.

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Just so you know, I wasn't trying to patronize you nor condescend to you at all. I have a little over 3000 reps with a ton of different LD decks (including, no kidding, about 50 with Shivan Wumpus ). I get it why people play pet cards and budget manabases, and I seriously wish everyone in the Ponza (really, any RGx Land Destruction deck) community the best, whether they are playing an "optimal" deck or not.

Lemme know if you ever actually want advice. No worries if not.

Cheers.

clayperce on Land Destruction Sideboard

5 months ago

ToolmasterOfBrainerd,
Thanks much for the shout-out. Unfortunately, Sarkhan420X isn't listening ... my "ignorant comments" (on the manabase, Shivan Wumpus , and the amount of LD in the 75) were some of the ones they got all excited about :-D

VaultSkirge on

5 months ago

Sarkhan420X: I will accept your point about RR not being hard to produce in a 2c deck. Clayperce is right when he says that Shivan Wumpus is bad, especially when compared to Thragtusk . To begin with, it’s a 5/3 that gains you 5 life for 5 mana. On top of that, it’s resilient to removal because you’re going to get a 3/3 when it dies (or gets exiled, for that matter). That is just so much better than Shivan Wumpus in Modern where decks don’t need many lands to function. Even if the opponent does sacrifice the land, that’s a Stone Rain for 4 where you’re not even choosing the land being destroyed. There are so many things that you could be playing instead of Beast Within . Those 4 slots aren’t worth dedicating to removal if the removal is an Assassin's Trophy that costs 1 more and has a bigger drawback. What did you say about Cindervines not being instant speed? That ability with paying 1 and sacrificing seems pretty instant speed to me, and that’s disregarding the noncreature spell part of it. Everytime that Control player casts Cryptic Command or Logic Knot or even Serum Visions , they’re taking 1 damage. That’s going to build up against decks like Phoenix, Control, Jund, and Grixis Urza. The color intensity argument is moot because if you don’t have RG consistently available on T2 in an RG deck there is something wrong with your manabase. Return to Nature is not good just because it’s versatile. Replace it and Feed the Clan in the sideboard with 4 Cindervines and 4 Ravenous Trap . Why Feed the Clan ? Because you’re gaining life in the MB already with that Thragtusk that you so prudently replaced Shivan Wumpus with. Why would you have Back to Nature in the SB? If you side it in against decks where you need artifact/enchantment hate, it’s a subpar Destructive Revelry / Cindervines . If you side it in against GY decks, it’s a subpar Tormod's Crypt / Ravenous Trap . Finally, leaving out menace when describing Goblin Dark-Dwellers was not an “attempt to strawman.” Menace is an unimportant keyword that doesn’t actually give your creature much of an advantage. If Dark-Dwellers had trample, or first strike, or sone other good keyword, I would be willing to listen. But menace just does not make a creature very scary. It’s also not a “4/4 with menace for 2.” You’re still paying 5 mana, and by the time you cast a 5-mana creature (turn 4-5 on average, even with Utopia Sprawl ) I don’t think your opponent will care very much about one land. The vast majority of spells in Modern are 4 mana or less. I challenge you to name one spell in Modern that costs 5-6 mana and is an integral part of a Modern deck other than Tron. I agree with clayperce on lands. Just play Copperline Gorge or basics instead of Rootbound Crag because Gorge is coming in untapped when you need it to (turns 1, 2, and 3) and Crag doesn’t come in untapped until T2 and after.

VaultSkirge on

5 months ago

“If I’m behind, the deck was getting bad draws anyway so that’s a bad argument.” You’re conceding that your deck gets bad draws. Does that tell you anything? Also, how is it a bad argument to suggest that Shivan Wumpus is a terrible topdeck when you’re behind? If the deck was “getting bad draws” during the game, a value creature like Thragtusk or Obstinate Baloth would get you right back in the game instead of paying 4 mana to have your opponent sacrifice a land.

Sarkhan420X on

5 months ago

clayperce: Rootbound Crag is not an issue. i obviously won't be keeping an opening hand with only 1 land, or where the only lands are Rootbound Crag . so it in no way prevents a turn 1 elf or sprawl. Shivan Wumpus is a good card. period. if i'm behind, the deck was getting bad draws anyway so thats a bad argument. there are tons and tons of good cards that can be bad topdecks late game, but people use them anyway. a 6/6 with trample on turn 2 or 3 is good. i never said the land destruction itself was a win con, thats a ridiculously silly statement for you to make. the creatures are what win the game. this deck isn't "ponza", its land destruction. i'm not interested in being a sheep and copy/pasting netdecks. don't patronize and condescend me with your "cheers" after you basically told me my deck was garbage.

clayperce on

5 months ago

Sarkhan420X,
We need a Turn 1 Elf or Sprawl, so lands that enter tapped (looking at you, Rootbound Crag ) have no place in Ponza. If budget is a concern, just play Basics instead. Seriously.

Sorry, but Shivan Wumpus is terrible. It's a win-more when ahead, and the worst top-deck imaginable when behind ... your opponents will be overjoyed to sac' a Land, wreck our next draw, and keep beating face.

Finally, while Land Destruction is a blast, it's not a wincon. Most competitive Ponza decks run 7x LD effects in the 75, and in the entire history of Ponza the most that has ever been successful (and it was only one deck, at a small tornament) was 12x. 17x is going to be fun, but I can almost guarantee it will not be competitive.

Cheers!

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