Veldt

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Veldt

Land

Veldt doesn't untap during your untap step if it has a depletion counter on it.

At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a depletion counter from Veldt.

Tap: Add (Green) or (White) to your mana pool. Put a depletion counter on Veldt.

BMHKain on One Day until Throne of …

4 years ago

As Throne of Eldraine Spoilers are flowing like a Fairy Tale Epic, I'll try to explain my reasons for things not mentioned for Allied Colors here yet. Before I do, Delay looks great, but how does Suspend work, & how good is it against opponents? I also suppose all ten Ravnica Signets & Talismans are better than Arcane Signet ? I'm intrigued about this; it seems like:

  1. Talismans
  2. Ravnican Signets
  3. Arcane Signet

Is this where the rankings stand for Overall Power for these Mana Rocks? Just checking to be sure.

Finally, I still am guessing there's no substitute for Demonic Tutor unless anyone can say different. For now, though, It's a lost cause. Anyways, the list:

Arctic Flats Snow Taplands

Elfhame Palace / Tranquil Expanse Generic Tap Duals

Gavony Township Innistrad Location Duals

Grasslands Tap Fetches

Horizon Canopy Future-Sighted/Horizon Duals (Missing 4 other allied cards.)

Riftstone Portal Graveyard Duals (Or something...)

Saltcrusted Steppe Storage Duals

Sungrass Prairie The Crappy Fetchlands

Tranquil Garden / Vec Townships Slow Tap Lands

Veldt Duals Utilizing Depletion Counters

Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree Ravnica Location Duals

Anything else as Dual Lands you may already be familiar w/. I just wanted to mention the worst Allied-Only, Nearly awful Allied-Only, & nothing else. Since I'm reduced to a situation where nearly all my cards in my Landbase need to not ETB Tapped, I want your opinions on the worst of the worst. & I'd like your opinions for the ones that didn't get noted that ETB Tapped, but is still good; which bumps off, for instance:

Blossoming Sands / Graypelt Refuge Lifegain Lands

Stirring Wildwood Man Lands

Temple of Plenty Scry Lands

Selesnya Guildgate Guild Lands

If I'm missing out on anything, either:

A: It's a more common Two Color Land than these types.

B: So many use them, there is no point in mentioning them here.

C: Other...

Sorry for the inconvenience for all these kinds of lands. I just want to see as too which ones are worth adding... Thanks in advance.

Brylon on

5 years ago

shalai edh update number 2:

out :: 21

creature:

Azusa, Lost but Seeking

Flickerwisp

Glimmerpoint Stag

Azusa, Lost but Seeking is very expensive. I am very aware she is awesome, so I've added her to a maybeboard if I decide I want to further upgrade this deck. Flickerwisp and Glimmerpoint Stag are removed because I am largely removing flicker effects because the strat is not powerful enough in this deck.

planeswalker:

Karn, Scion of Urza

Elspeth Tirel

Elspeth, Knight-Errant

Garruk, Caller of Beasts

Ajani Unyielding

Originally I wanted to take advantage of Shalai, Voice of Plenty's hexproof for planeswalkers, but I didn't make great picks on planeswalkers, and ultimately Karn, Scion of Urza, and Elspeth, Sun's Champion were really the only ones worth it. I can't reasonably afford Karn for this deck, so he has been moved to the maybeboard.

instant:

Liberate

Flicker effects have largely been removed.

sorcery:

Flicker

Fumigate

Sudden Disappearance

Flicker effects have largely been removed. In this case being sorcery speed makes them less valuable, because they cannot be used for avoidance. Fumigate is removed in order to make way for better mass removal.

enchantment:

Privileged Position

It's just too expensive. Shalai, Voice of Plenty does the same thing, and I can just cast her from the command zone.

artifact:

Coalition Relic

Darksteel Ingot

These are less valuable in a deck that is only 2 colors.

land:

Veldt

Vec Townships

Tranquil Garden

Riftstone Portal

Windbrisk Heights

Secluded Steppe

The first 4 of these are just bad, and the last 2 are being removed to make way for more plains.

in :: 21

creature:

Serra Ascendant

Birds of Paradise

Midnight Guard

Birds is great mana ramp. Serra Ascendant exists to be a win con. Midnight Guard is in as one piece of an unlimited token combo.

instant:

Condemn

Powerful spot removal that puts the card where the player can't get it.

sorcery:

Krosan Grip

Rout

Oust

Krosan Grip is in as artifact/enchantment hate. Rout replaces Fumigate. Oust is spot removal that avoids the graveyard.

enchantment:

Flickerform

Shield of the Oversoul

Presence of Gond

Flickerform is in for avoidance on key creatures. Presence of Gond is the second part of the infinite token combo, and Shield of the Oversoul is in because it looks fun.

artifact:

Relic of Progenitus

Urza's Incubator

Elixir of Immortality

Mind's Eye

Relic of Progenitus is in as graveyard hate. Urza's Incubator is in for cost reduction. Elixir of Immortality is in for mill protection, and Mind's Eye is in for draw.

land:

Path of Ancestry

Reliquary Tower

Homeward Path

Emeria, The Sky Ruin

3 Plains

Path of Ancestry is good for tribal. Reliquary Tower gives me no max hand size. Homeward Path protects me from effects that take my creatures. Emeria, The Sky Ruin lets me cheat back in dead creatures, and the Plains are added to support Emeria.

Cards for later

expensive, but maybe at some point:

Teferi's Protection

Karn, Scion of Urza

Vedalken Orrery

Sublime Archangel

Azusa, Lost but Seeking

Qasali Pridemage

maybeboard:

Debt of Loyalty

Reconnaissance

enpc on The Halls of Protection

6 years ago

The_Overlord_666: I think you're getting yourself a wee bit confused here. Veldt's colour identity is green/white. The "tap: Add to you mana pool" is the reason for that.

What we were talking about with fetchlands was that there is a difference between having a green mana symbol (which Veldt has) and a card referring to "Forest" in the rules text. Just because a card uses the word "Forest" does not make it green. If the land subtype is forest however (e.g. Land - forest) it intrinsically has the ability "tap: Add to your mana pool" and the card does have green in its colour identity.

The_Overlord_666 on The Halls of Protection

6 years ago

okay time to double message

myselfgone: Thank you for the advice and the card reference but it doesnt fit this the play style that i use but in the future if i feel the need to add it or if i hit a road block.

lilgiantrobot: thank you for the advice about lands(ill think about using more lands) and the and the circle of protection. but for the Veldt being as well as i would send you the comment section of the deck Just Stay Dead (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/just-stay-dead-1/#c3088521) by enpc where i also commented about this on his use of multicolored lands and they explained to my the way around it, and yes this deck already tends to make more enemies then Friends to also say for the two anti black/red cards, but that is what Odric, Lunarch Marshal is for.

Both: and for future reference I will eventually be adding Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Iona, Shield of Emeria, and Baneslayer Angel to this deck at some point in the future

lilgiantrobot on The Halls of Protection

6 years ago

Veldt is out of your color identity, and 34 lands overall seems much to low considering you're running no real acceleration. I'd consider going up to 37 or 38, and adding few mana rocks.

Ghostly Prison/Sphere of Safety are powerful, and deter attacks towards you without you needing to use more resources.

Consider dropping the Circle of Protection enchantments for Rune of Protection: Black and its cycle. You're already mono-w so paying for it is still easy, but this cycle gives you the option to cycle. In a deck like this you're going to want the ability to get a fresh card if there is no red at the table, lets say.

Crown of Awe/Mask of Law and Grace may be overall better as Absolute Law/Absolute Grace. They do mess with the entire table though, so you may not want that.