Does Panharmonicon's ability still work with creatures that need to enter the battlefield from a particular zone? Also what are some replacement effects that are unaffected by Panharmonicon?
Asked by Yesterday 6 years ago
I have a two examples here that I'm looking to check.
I have a Panharmonicon on the field and I cast a Deathbringer Regent from my hand which successfully hits the battlefield. I appreciate that under most normal circumstances the ability activating twice wouldn't matter, but it does activate twice, right?
A more practical example is if I have a River Kelpie on the battlefield and I cast a Skaab Ruinator from the graveyard with a Panharmonicon on the battlefield - I get to draw a card from casting Skaab Ruinator from my graveyard, and I get to draw two cards from it entering the battlefield from the graveyard?
Finally, the rulings on the Gatherer site for Panharmonicon specify that replacement effects don't occur twice due to Panharmonicon being on the field. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this refers to creatures with Persist/Undying, and Clone effects, is that right? Is there anything else of note that doesn't trigger?
Thanks. So just to confirm, Reassembling Skeleton enters directly from the graveyard and so triggers River Kelpie's first ability (twice with Panharmonicon), but Skaab Ruinator doesn't count as entering the battlefield from the graveyard if it uses the stack to be cast from the graveyard, so only triggers River Kelpie's second ability and not the first?
May 21, 2017 5:13 p.m.
Correct. A cast creature enters from the stack, though enter the battlefield effects may refer to "if you cast it from [zone]," in which case the permanent both needs to habe been cast, and from that zone, in order to trigger (like Deathbringer Regent).
Neotrup says... Accepted answer #1
Deathbringer Regent triggers twice, but it won't activate the second time unless there are still 5 or more other creatures, because it has an intervening if clause. So if 5 creatures regenerate, it will try to kill them again, but if only 4 regenerate, it won't bother.
River Kelpie will trigger twice if a creature enters the battlefield from the graveyard, but only once if you cast a spell from the graveyard. In other words, it triggers twice from Reassembling Skeleton, but once from Skaab Ruinator.
You are correct in what it refers to, as well as anything with the phrase "as thic enters" the other thing of note would be things that enter with counters don't enter with additional counters.
May 21, 2017 4:47 p.m.