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Sacrifice three other creatures: Transform Voldaren Pariah.
Madness (If you discard this card, discard it into exile. When you do, cast it for its madness cost or put it into your graveyard.)
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Voldaren Pariah Discussion
1 month ago
First, you seem to be missing 2 cards, you've only got 98 in your list.
Now for some suggestions...
Reconnaissance needs to be in this list. It allows you to attack with every creature, untap to avoid bad blocks, untap after first strike damage but before normal damage, and even untap after normal combat damage is dealt due to the creature being 'attacking' until the end of combat step ends (you untap in the middle of this step).
Now for a few cards with much smaller explanations lol...
Boros Charm - wraths are the bane of this deck, protect your board. Talisman of Indulgence/Fellwar Stone both deserve spots. Shared Animosity needs to be in the deck, not just the maybe pile. Diabolic Intent should replace Diabolic Tutor. Sorin, Solemn Visitor is better here by far for his lifelink your team +1 than your 2 current Sorins combined.
Now creatures... and I'd up your creature count to at least 33. Legion Loyalist, Rakish Heir, Yahenni, Undying Partisan, Mirror Entity, Dusk Legion Zealot and consider more flyers like Falkenrath Aristocrat and Voldaren Pariah Flip.
Anyways, I hope this helps and feel free to check out my list for ideas. Edgar's Dega Vampires. Upvotes on any of my lists is appreciated.
2 months ago
I can tell just by looking at this briefly that this build has been improved over time as it looks very refined. As I am not experienced with this commander, take my comments with a grain of salt as you are more of the expert here.
I wonder if you could make use of more token producers - specifically ones that make at least 3 1/1 creatures at a time in order to use Teysa's first ability on demand if she's the only creature in play. Cards that come to mind include: Sengir Autocrat, Benevolent Offering, Increasing Devotion, Entrapment Maneuver, Spectral Procession, Martial Coup.
I think more card draw effects would be nice. I'm very surprised to not see Mentor of the Meek in here. I would argue that Read the Bones is strictly better than Painful Lesson. But overall I would consider adding a few more, some that come to mind that play well are: Damnable Pact, Skeletal Scrying, Blood Divination, Altar's Reap, Ancient Craving.
I think you could use more mana ramp. Besides mana rocks, you could take advantage of treasures with cards like Pitiless Plunderer.
Not sure if you've thought about focusing on strong cards that care about low CMC. Besides Mentor of the Meek, other cool cards could be added (some would even interact with Teysa): Unearth, Sun Titan, Reveillark, Citywide Bust.
Fun cards that come to mind that you could add:
- Razaketh, the Foulblooded Not a cheap card at around $6, but could be insane in this deck.
- Archfiend of Despair - also around $6 and high cmc, but would be nuts for ending a long game quickly
- Krav, the Unredeemed I know you said you recently traded him, but it could be worth hunting down another cheap non-foil one and run him with Regna, the Redeemer.
- Bontu the Glorified and/or Oketra the True
- Athreos, God of Passage not cheap at $12, but could be useful when you don't have tokens to sacrifice
- Eliminate the Competition - very underestimated IMO
- Black Market I'm usually very picky when it comes to enchantments at 5+ CMC, but maybe this one would be worth it in a long game since it sees tokens dying.
Lastly, a few cards I think could possibility be cut for any of the above (I am often eager to cut high CMC cards btw):
- Treasury Thrull - a good effect I'll admit, but I'm just not thrilled with the 6 CMC. If reviving creatures is your main goal, something like a Hell's Caretaker's effect for less mana might be better.
- Voldaren Pariah Flip - at her cmc with that effect, I think I'd rather run a board wipe instead
- Vizkopa Confessor - looks like a fun card, but I don't like the CMC.
- Profane Command - I don't know that this should be cut, but I'd encourage you to really ask yourself which modes you typically use because you might be able to get a card with the desired mode for less mana. If X spells are a way for you close out the game, you could consider Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire.
- Tamiyo's Journal - looks like a fun card, but idk about the cmc, requires a long game before providing lots of value.
- Tainted Sigil - I've never seen this card before, does it pay off well? I just don't like that people can see it on the board.
Overall, very impression decklist - glad you rebuilt it. Eager to face it next week.
4 months ago
Alright, it seems the deck is a bit top heavy. Here are my suggestions. I have structured this rework of the deck to sac and get the mana out quick till you can have Meren stay on the board long enough or just hard cast the big things. You don't have to take my suggestions but I highly insist that this will make her work again.
5 months ago
usaDiabetic I've updated the description. 30-35 lands is as trim as it can go, haha!
It is true that once there are more than 3 opponents this kind of strategy faces greater opposition. I've played most often with 1-4 opponents but 4, 5, or more opponents would be trouble!
To be fair to the deck, the card draw of Herald's Horn, Skullclamp, The Immortal Sun, Vanquisher's Banner, Asylum Visitor, Champion of Dusk, Dusk Legion Zealot, Forerunner of the Legion, Twilight Prophet, Dark Prophecy, Necropotence, Phyrexian Arena and reanimation of Victimize, Patriarch's Bidding, Living Death, Bloodline Necromancer help sustain after board wipes.
Enough creatures have excellent effects as well to benefit from being knocked out including Kheru Bloodsucker, Paladin of Atonement, Elenda, the Dusk Rose, Kalastria Highborn, Pawn of Ulamog, Voldaren Pariah Flip, Bloodghast, Oathsworn Vampire, Viscera Seer, Blood Artist, and Falkenrath Noble.
And for disruption/removal there's New Blood, The Immortal Sun, Voldaren Pariah Flip, Vampire Hexmage, Thief of Blood, Patron of the Vein, Captivating Vampire, Bloodhusk Ritualist, Gatekeeper of Malakir, Guul Draz Assassin, and Bishop of Binding.
I'm open to suggestion though. Any other removal options you might recommend?
7 months ago
First off, kudos for including Reconnaissance... I've been suggesting that card for Edgar Markov for awhile (suggested upwards of 150 times lmao). Consider Iroas, God of Victory and Dolmen Gate for other hyper aggressive effects. I do have a few suggestions though.
First, card draw. Dusk Legion Zealot is 2x 1/1's and draw for 1 life and 2 mana, he's good here. Twilight Prophet is great, City's Blessing is easy to get with Edgar. Herald's Horn is good for the pseudo draw and discount. Now I realize triple black is tough, but Dark Prophecy and Necropotence are both really good here for drawing cards obviously and for wrath recovery which is the decks main weakness imo. Speaking of wraths, look into Teferi's Protection and possibly Scapegoat if you've got enough low drops to just vomit your hand back out.
Anyways, feel free to check out my list for ideas. Edgar's Dega Vampires Feedback and upvotes on any of my decks is appreciated.
9 months ago
I accuelly removed Butcher of Malakir as I found him often to be less impactful and strictly worse then other vamps in his price range, in addition his cost is often more then I care to pay for what amounts to a gravepact on a stick. I do in fact have a gravepact in the physical version I am running, and it is good fun sacking things to Yahenni, Undying Partisan ,Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter and Voldaren Pariah Flip. I was considering removing it for other things, but I think I will keep it for now, possibly even adding Dictate of Erebos, as I seem to play against a fair amount of wipes, and flashing that down could be rather ammusing....to me >=D
I do have a Mirror Entity around here somewhere and may have to give that a try. I had one in an old kithkin deck for just that purpose and it seems like a good fit here.
Hazoret's Monument I dont feel will pull its weight, as more often then not I am only going to get to use half of the card. The red sources are simply not large enough for it to warrent a spot. It would be nice if I was running Rakdos Vamps, but its mainly Orzhov, with a few red splashes for must haves, like Olivia Volderan and Stromkirk Captain. I was thinking of trying out
I like the mana suggestions, and I feel I need to get some more lands that dont come in tapped, to help get online ASAP and pumping out vamps. Thats probably my biggest complaint is all the down time waiting for lands to start working, putting me behind, and just honning in the correct number of them, along with better color managment. I will certianly be looking into picking up the suggested lands and finding room for them.
9 months ago
Herald's Horn, Metallic Mimic, Mirror Entity, Butcher of Malakir, Stoneforge Masterwork, Voldaren Pariah Flip, and Viscera Seer come to mind. Settle the Wreckage and/or Comeuppance. Or, if you want to upset two opponents at once, Fight to the Death. Impact Tremors.
9 months ago
True, Bloodghast would probably benefit my deck, but I was originally running this deck with 4x Tormented Soul and it became a pain to not be able to block anything. I already have Nether Traitor so I don't think I want to drop 65 bucks on Bloodghast's.
Devour Flesh didn't make it into the deck but it was definitely an honorable mention.
As for Voldaren Pariah Flip, I love her. She is brutal and will trigger both sides of my deck mechanic for sure, but I am going to save her for the Grixis commander deck that I am building. That deck has the recipe for some fun and brutal combos. It started as the Mindseize Commander deck but I'm making Thraximundar my Commander and Nekusar, the Mindrazer his Lieutenant. Draw, discard, madness, sacrifice, flashback/other play from graveyard effects. It should be one hell of a deck.