Nagging Thoughts

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Nagging Thoughts


Look at the top two cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the other into your graveyard.

Madness (If you discard this card, discard it into exile. When you do, cast it for its madness cost of put it into your graveyard.)

8netherwind8 on The Legion of Doom: Foiled Again

9 months ago

MilesHiles - Ah, that Jodah deck is a PRIMER & meant for fun (hence lack of free-counter, fast-mana, etc); you may have missed the Atraxa deck in the "Just For Fun" folder, built when she first came out (a Damia, Sage of Stone deck before that). I understand the confusion. As for T1 ramp, you have 6 for fixing (Diamond, Chrome, Petal, Bird, Hierarch, Halfling & even a Ring/Crypt into Arcane/Fellwar), so I don't see why there's an argument. Getting to a 6cmc "UU" v 4cmc "WU" shouldn't be an issue with pricey landbases & money-rocks (any pseudo-competitive build should, given this price-tag); & Deathrite Shaman is always an option with all the fetches in 4/5 color decks (& even counts towards early Bloom Tender). My Turns Example contains the cards needed for fastest T4, just as your combo explanation does (I too just provided a quicky, but definitely not the only way with this setup, just more optimized card slots).

Big Teferi has his Nagging Thoughts, but I'd much rather Anticipate the interaction around me with UW Teferi, by digging deeper, keeping an amazing "pop", all while having a "+" as the Combo option. As for Tezzeret the Seeker, he has the same "must have Artifacts" clause as Artifice Master, and they both "make" their condition. Tutoring for whatever the situation calls for can be better utility all round (especially with your Art-count, Sensei's Divining Top for dig, Ensnaring Bridge is clutch & Ichormoon Gauntlet can be "GG"); while keeping the infinite option open. Admittedly, The Peregrine Dynamo is situationally better than Rings, and a great way to re-use middle-minuses... lets face it, going straight for Ults doesn't always work out ;) (and you're faced with that "surviving turn cycle" mess you want to avoid). Still, if dodging interaction to go for Ults is your thing, power to you!

There may be answers though, especially when playing at this power level (Stax, free-counters, expensive ramp, infinites, etc; at least its NOT another Stax/Thoracle build =) #LoveTheCreativity). Props to JtMS and the versatile Walkers, so valued in multiple formats for a "swiss army" approach instead of juicy/bait Ults. We do have a diverse playgroup here in the Seattle area; sorry that you had a rough time with these suggestions (all I was getting at), maybe give them another chance sometime! Best of luck

inimically3 on SeekerofSecrets

4 years ago

On your Pioneer Phoenix deck, have you playtested it with Strategic Planning or Take Inventory over Tome Scour ? Take Inventory has been working out well for me. Someone suggested Nagging Thoughts to me. I thought it sounds sketchy, but the madness with Baral, Chief of Compliance was their logic. Anyway, it's all food for thought. :)

itsbuzzi on Jeskai Ascendancy Build In Progress

5 years ago

Hey was just looking this up to test something out and noticed you just put this up. Not sure if you're looking for suggestions and although I don't play this deck my buddy does and we playtest exclusively so I'm pretty sure how it runs. It seems this list very much resembles that guy on the pro tours' deck as I can see the sideboard tech he included and the nagging thoughts. I assume you know what each piece does in the deck after looking it up so i'll just address the changes my buddy and I made.

Not in any order: So the deck dies to any hand disruption because you need to keep a decent hand but once they know what you are playing they know which pieces to take out. 4X Leyline of Sanctity are very important in the sideboard for this reason and helps against burn decks that beat you before you can combo off.

The manabase only needs a few shocks. All green to play manadorks and red, white, and blue for ascendancy. So Hallowed Fountain and Steam Vents are not really needed and you would want more fetches. All the shock lands include green so my buddy uses the red green fetch. Sorry the name eludes me at this moment.

Now for the instants. My buddy plays 1 more Cerulean Wisps because he really likes that card, all the Manamorphose helps out against blood moon because you can play right through it but otherwise the card is subpar compared to other cantrips so I suggested playing 1 Manamorphose in side and 3 main in case game one you need to fetch it from the sideboard you still can. Noxious Revival has proven to be a powerhouse and is the only way to get a combo off on turn 2 because it costs 0 mana. He plays 4 just because other than getting the turn 2 combo it's just an ok card for 0 (it doesn't draw by itself). Silence is Time Walk. But the thing about this is you'll need to save a mana to be able to play it on their turn. Typically you'll want to try to find the combo pieces instead of stalling the opponent (they can still attack). it's really 12 for one and a dozen for another pick and choose with this card.

Although he doesn't run it I can see where Nagging Thoughts is good. You'll need 2 mana dorks (or a Fatestitcher to pull it off typically) but which resolving a card and drawing and discarding your creatures untap and you play another card, could be solid. Not sure but he doesn't run it.

He runs Dryad Arbor at the moment with Expedite along with View from Above just to make things go quicker. Because of this he runs more Abundant Growth to enchant his man land. As for other creatures he dropped a Fatestitcher because you don't need many, you can get him to the grave easy and bring him back fairly easy as well. He also runs a Noble Hierarch. Another 1 drop dork, 12 one a dozen another.

Rest of sideboard: I can see where Grapeshot is used but just use this card instead: Flesh / Blood. Mid combo you search for it, with a Fatestitcher you tap him and whatever other creature you have and whatever creature does 20+ damage to face. You win. Doing it this way frees up a sideboard slot. My buddy runs Meddling Mage. Just 1. It seems fun to search for and play it. There is also Fiery Justice in side. Seems good for little goblin decks or whatever. As for the rest of the sideboard we are still playing around. 1 Wear is good. It seems subpar to just kill one after searching but it still seems alright for Blood Moon or whatever else. The rest of his sideboard is being looked at so nothing else is really in there at the moment.

I think I hit on everything I can think of, hope it helped.

FLATSO99 on Baral help

5 years ago

Hello SMASHER101 I have looked at your decklist and have a couple of suggestions for cuts/swaps:)

First Opt could be cut for Preordain as it's just better all around.

As for counterspells I think the following could go:

Dismiss, Exclude, Essence Scatter, Faerie Trickery, Logic Knot, and Spell Crumple these counterspells are just not very powerful and seeing as you have so many in your deck cutting six would barely hurt your ability to counter masses of spells.

Dragonlord's Prerogative could go as its ability is a bit underwhelming.

Nagging Thoughts and Capsize are also possible cuts.

Hope this helps happy tapping:)

Gozarou on It Came From Beyond

5 years ago

I personally don’t like Nagging Thoughts since it’s a sorcery in base and only really is fine if you madness it... I’d also consider Darkblast, either main or side, for manadorks and stuff, it kills surprisingly much as long as you do the doublecast trick with it.

I also feel like we need a way to deal with something like Lantern and other decks that just try to halt the game, good interactions with non-creatures would be nice... U/B famously not good at dealing with artifacts and enchantments, so what can one bring in in such matchups? Like, can we board Cyclonic Rift or something like that?

Apocate on It Came From Beyond

5 years ago

Tasigur is fine, he's just not as big a body as Gurmag Angler. There's no specific reason against it, he's undoubted value, but given the nature of our graveyard there are frequently going to be things in it we don't need or want to stay there (so we can cast the Ruinator) and it gives the opponent a bit too much control, feel free to try it out, but I'm not certain of it's value.

The no group: Commandeer is definitely too much jank, the Corpse Connoisseur is a touch expensive and unnecessary even unearthing him, and I think you know why Mass Polymorph doesn't go in the deck. lol

The maybe group: Corpseweft is beautiful jank, worth a try, but it may be too jank. The deck is already running about as many creatures and as few lands as I could reasonably get it, and it's frequently not guaranteed to be able to cast the Ruinator turn 3 so I don't think going down lands, control, or creatures for it is a good idea. Crypt Incursion is too mana expensive as graveyard hate for the opponent, too indiscriminate for self graveyard hate, and really only relevant in a few matchups for life gain. However it might work out in the sideboard. Forbidden Alchemy really good, but I think it's too mana expensive, I'd rather run Opt, Nagging Thoughts or Plunge into Darkness... Which I might look into. All of these are viable for a more budget build of the deck for certain, along with Halimar Depths and Mortuary Mire.

The Yes group: Extirpate/Surgical Extraction are obvious includes that I totally missed maindeck and might fit in somehow, maybe going down the Fatal Push and the Nihil Spellbomb for a pair of either. Logic Knot if you're building this deck and you're smart, that card goes over Ulamog's Nullifier in the sideboard. I'm not smart, so I'm going to do some soul serching.

lilchaos on Izzet Graveyard Budget Deck

6 years ago

PocketGio, Exquisite Firecraft is a solid card, but again it's too expensive personally and i don't like the three mana cost to cast.

Izzet Charm is a great card, and i will probably switch out Nagging Thoughts for it.

As for Steam Augury i feel that Taigam's Scheming is superior as it does the same thing except i have full control even if it is a sorcery.

I like your point as per the Sorcery vs Instant, good advice.

CaptSillva on Baral Maniac

6 years ago

You should really try getting some value out of Baral's discard ability. Frantic Search is great since it will cost 1 less making it gain you a mana while digging you deeper it also combos with High Tide effects, Broken Concentration, Circular Logic, Obsessive Search, Welcome to the Fold, Nagging Thoughts, and Curator of Mysteries all let you cash in on discarding cards.

Seems like a major flavor fail not to have Disallow in this deck. Also if you have the budget for it, Cryptic Command is a must have.

You could also consider more mana ramp cards like Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, and Extraplanar Lens.

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