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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Hunted Dragon
Creature — Dragon
Flying, haste
When Hunted Dragon enters the battlefield, target opponent creates three 2/2 white Knight creature tokens with first strike.
Gidgetimer on Interaction between Blim, Comedic Genius …
10 months ago
Hunted Dragon received some eratta when they changed the phrasing of how tokens are made. The new text is "When Hunted Dragon enters the battlefield, target opponent creates three 2/2 white Knight creature tokens with first strike." Since your opponent is the one who creates the tokens, they are the one who own the tokens. The person under whose control a token enters is the person who created, and therefore owns, the token.
111.2. The player who creates a token is its owner. The token enters the battlefield under that player’s control.
As a side note, it is weird that Hunted Dragon by default links to the third newest printing instead of the newest one. Linking the newest one would be a The List printing with old text and I would have to force the Commander Anthology Volume II anyway to show the correct Oracle text on the card, but it is weird that it defaults to C15.
CamraMaan on Interaction between Blim, Comedic Genius …
10 months ago
The main question is regarding whether or not a creature token created under an opponent's control by me (in this instance by my Hunted Dragon) will count as being owned by me or them...? I'm building a Kardur, Doomscourge deck that will be creating a lot of token creatures under my opponents' control, so Blim, Comedic Genius could possibly have a lot of synergy with it.
TIA
Mave on
endles whispers edh
1 year ago
I read the thread when I tried to look up the rules for the cards which is kinda important for EDH Endless Whispers. (I plan on including it in Obeka)
In a 1v1 match it mostly tries to get the best creature of an opponent while donating negative effects. But in commander it becomes a game of "hot potato" where you can never be sure who gets the creatures of another player but you can decide what "garbage" you donate. That is the gist of what the deck will do in a multiplayer game.
Depending on what you give away you may want cards that can counter triggered abilities in case ove Leveler, Sky Swallower, Boldwyr Heavyweights, Eater of Days, Hunted Wumpus, Inverter of Truth, Dust Elemental, Avatar of Discord, Indentured Djinn Ebon Drake Plague Reaver Master of the Feast Tempting Wurm, the haunted one like Hunted Troll, Hunted Dragon,Hunted Dragon, Hunted Lammasu or Hunted Phantasm. Personally I would use Obeka, Brute Chronologist to counter the ETB of the creatures you play by ending the turn and then giving them to an opponent. But that only works for when the creature with negative effect enters the battlefield during your turn. But it is a great plan B in case you don't have Endless Whispers to give your opponents creatures from the list above by simply playing an 8/8 trample for then ending the turn before the trigger resolves.
Other options are Jon Irenicus, Shattered One or Blim, Comedic Genius both want your opponents to control your creatures. If you just want the effect of giving your opponents negative ETBs you can also build a deck on The Beamtown Bullies. But including Endless Whispers in this deck can backfire by giving you one of the negative effects if the creature dies. And it also is hard to let e.g. Leveler enter the battlefield to donate it through endless whispers. What helps with that may be to manifest a creature with a negative effect with e.g. Scroll of Fate. You can also manifest creatures with negative effect from your library but that is a bit more random.
To prevent getting creatures with negative effects from your opponents you to gain hexproof. There are plenty of effects giving yourself hexproof in white but I couldn't find a good commander for that. To gain hexproof yourself in a non white deck you most likely need Orbs of Warding which may be the way to go to prevent opponents to return the hot potato to you. Which is what I do in Obeka (sadly I don't have any list online of that deck).
If you like Endless Whispers to take your opponent cards however you might rather want to play Grave Betrayal or Lim-Dul the Necromancer. Overall it can still be used as a politicle tool. Especially if you donate one of the Haunted once you can build a pact with another player that you always trade them with each other to get more and more tokens.
Talking tokens it is also possible to put Endless Whispers in Grismold, the Dreadsower which gets into the direction of Dagger Burn known through Rampaging Ferocidon, Trespasser's Curse, Massacre Wurm, Slaughter Specialist and e.g. Illness in the Ranks/Virulent Plague. Whenever you donate Hunted Troll to an opponent or it enters the battlefield you let the 1/1 faeris directly die causing Grismold to trigger and also cards like Poison-Tip Archer.
It is also possible to play with effects like Plaguecrafter, Abyssal Gorestalker, Gravelighter. The player who gets the creature has to sacrifice one creature less and choses who sacrifice one creature less the next turn. But as long as you profit from death triggers via e.g. enchantments or artifacts you will profit most from your favourite card.
I also like Rakdos the Defiler to use Endless Whisper. After all one can donate some negative effects and if the opponent sacrifices creatures they have to donate them to someone else. Altough that also works better in 1v1.
I hope the explanation helps to find the right deck to play Endless Whispers in Commander.
Helgrind on
Blocked
2 years ago
Treeshaker Chimera, Archetype of Aggression,Khenra Charioteer,Quartzwood Crasher, Proud Wildbonder,Gorm the Great,Sylvan Basilisk, Hunted Dragon,Hunter's Insight,Kazuul's Fury Flip, Berserker's Frenzy
Baron_Pretzels on
Xira of the Beautiful Dresses
2 years ago
Interesting idea. I would suggest finding ways to give opponents creatures like with Goblin Spymaster or Akroan Horse the hunted cycle could work(Hunted Dragon,Hunted Troll) maybe not Hunted Horror that could backfire. Also Skullclamp would be great for card draw.
Immortalys on
Thantis' Creature Donation Station
2 years ago
Amazing deck! I did not realise there was someone before me with this idea, and I love how your deck is looking. Cards to consider for your Maybeboard: Acorn Catapult, Death by Dragons, Elephant Resurgence, Kamahl's Summons, Plague of Vermin, Tempt with Vengeance, Artifact Mutation, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Curse of Disturbance, Liege of the Hollows, Sawtusk Demolisher, Akroan Horse, Hungry Lynx, Life of the Party, Sleeper Agent, Tahngarth, First Mate and lets not forget the "Hunted" cycle with Hunted Horror, Hunted Dragon and Hunted Troll
MagicMarc on Cards that put creature token …
2 years ago
All the Hunted creatures work like Hunted Dragon, Hunted Horror, Hunted Lammasu, Hunted Phantasm, Hunted Troll. And they get you strong creatures.
KBK7101 on Would a "group hug" Marisi …
2 years ago
So, I've had a Marisi, Breaker of the Coil deck for about as long as I've been playing Commander/EDH (it's not a public deck because it's mainly an EDHREC cat tribal kind of thing). I've recently been wanting to redo it so it's less of an EDHREC copy/paste and I had a thought about running some group hug cards in it. Basically, the idea is that we want all out war between our opponents, but we want them to enjoying it at the same time. It's very much a "Fighting you now would be pointless. I want to fight you at your strongest." kind of trope that you see in anime and stuff like that.
Howling Mine, Heartbeat of Spring, Mana Flare, Evolutionary Escalation, maybe Primal Vigor and stuff like that alongside the token granting cards such as Hunted Dragon, Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor, Genesis Chamber etc. Some political cards would also be included. Maybe something like Promise of Loyalty, Secret Rendevous, etc.
At the height of the game, everyone would be at their very best, their gameplans running at (mostly) full speed with lots of cards in hand and lots of big creatures to swing at each other with like the big final battle at the end of a movie/show.
Would a deck like this have any potential? Or do the two styles clash too much?
