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As an additional cost to cast Vivisection, sacrifice a creature.

Draw three cards.

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Tyrant-Thanatos on Reactions on the Stack

5 months ago

Okay so that sort of scenario gets hairy real fast.

In addition to APNAP order, if a player controls multiple triggered abilities that trigger off of the same event, that player choses what order their triggers go on the stack in, relative to one another.

If Player A (the active player) has: Psychosis Crawler, Consecrated Sphinx, and Jace's Erasure

And Player N (the non-active player) has: Consecrated Sphinx, and Jace's Erasure

Player A casts Vivisection

It resolves and Player A draws three cards.

A's Crawler triggers, A's Erasure triggers, and N's Sphinx triggers three times at the same time. A chooses what order their Crawler and Erasure land on the stack, then they are followed by sphinx

Sphinx resolves. N draws two cards. (keep in mind, this is optional. the Sphinx very specifically says that you MAY draw two cards)

At this point, Crawler and Erasure are still on the stack, as well as two more instances of N's Sphinx, and A's Sphinx triggers twice at the same time N's Erasure triggers. Sphinxs go on the stack first, followed by Erasure.

So the stack looks like this:

N's Erasure

A's Sphinx

A's Sphinx

N's Sphinx

N's Sphinx

A's Crawler/A's Erasure (in the order of A's choosing)

Then n's erasure resolves, A mills 2.

A's Sphinx resolves, A draws 2 cards. At this point, A's Crawler triggers again and A's Erasure triggers again, as well as N's Sphinx. At this point we find ourselves more or less in the same state as before, except with another instance of A's Crawler/Erasure and sphinx stacks at the bottom.

The Stack is so:

N's Sphinx

N's Sphinx

A's Sphinx

N's Sphinx

N's Sphinx

A's Crawler and Erasure in the order of their choice

A's Crawler and Erasure in the order of their choice

Basically, so long as both players choose to draw off of their sphinx triggers that are triggering off of the other player's sphinx, this will continue until someone runs out of cards. If a player cuts the loop off by choosing not to draw cards, the stack will finally collapse and all of A's Crawlers and Erasures will finally resolve.

Again this is a really messy situation and I'm not even 100% sure I got everything correct here, I had to revise this post like twice lol.

Edit: and something I covered here that I missed in previous posts, Consecrated Sphinx triggers for each card the opponent drew, not just once for each instance of card draw effect. so Vivisection will trigger the enemy Sphinx 3 times.

Duiliath on Reactions on the Stack

5 months ago

Okay, to see if I have this in my head right could you verify or refute this stack order if in addition to Psychosis Crawler I also had a Consecrated Sphinx and Jace's Erasure and my opponent has Consecrated Sphinx and Jace's Erasure when I draw cards:

(Assuming whenever applicable players pass priority)

I cast Vivisection.

Vivisection resolves and I draw 3 cards.

Psychosis Crawler and opponent's Consecrated Sphinx trigger simultaneously and Psychosis Crawler is on the stack first.

Opponent's Consecrated Sphinx resolves and my Consecrated Sphinx and the opponents Jace's Erasure trigger simultaneously.

My Consecrated Sphinx is put on the stack first then my opponent's Jace's Erasure is put on the stack and resolves.

Then my Consecrated Sphinx resolves and triggers my Jace's Erasure which then resolves.

Then after everything Psychosis Crawler deals damage to the opponent.

Is this the right idea or am I missing something?

Tyrant-Thanatos on Reactions on the Stack

5 months ago

APNAP. When more than one trigger from more than one player is put on the stack, it goes in turn order, starting with the Active Player. Assuming this whole thing happened on your turn (you casted a sorcery to kick this whole thing off so I think that's a safe assumption assuming no Hypersonic Dragons were involved), you triggers will always go on the stack before your opponents when triggering off the same event, and therefor your opponents triggers will resolve first.


You cast Vivisection

Each player passes priority

Vivisection Resolves

Psychosis Crawler and Consecrated Sphinx trigger simultaneously

Crawler's ability is put on the stack first, then Sphinx's.

Assuming both players pass priority, Sphinx resolves

Jace's Erasures trigger and are put on the stack

The Erasures resolve, then the Crawler Resolves, assuming no responses.

TL;DR, your opponent is correct. but as MWorl91 pointed out, you don't lose for having an empty library, you lose for attempting to draw from an empty library.

Duiliath on Reactions on the Stack

5 months ago

I have Psychosis Crawler in play and my opponent has Consecrated Sphinx and 2 Jace's Erasures in play. I draw 3 cards during my turn, from Vivisection ability. I think the order of actions is:

I draw 3 cards. Then Consecrated Sphinx makes my opponent draw 2x3 cards. Then they lose 3 life from Psychosis Crawler. Then their Jace's Erasures trigger and I mill 2x6 cards

My Opponent thinks that the order is:

I draw 3 cards Then their Consecrated Sphinx makes them draw 2x3 cards. Then Their Jace's Erasures make me mill 4x3 cards. Then they lose 3 life

I was in a situation where this determined who won since I had 10 cards left in my deck and she had 3 life. We want to know who was right or if there is a different order we didn't realize.

VincentVonVeltschmerz on

10 months ago

+Gravitational Shift: comeon dood

+Favorable Winds: prevents comboing out with Skullclamp but I still think its worth

Vivisection => Time Reversal: A lot of things can replace Vivisection, why play a bad Harmonize?

Dragonrage => something else (idk Arcane Denial?): Okay it's cute that you can cast x-cost instant draws with it, though you can't attack with those 1/1s, or kill someone with Cmdr dmg, but being a bad Trumpet Blast on the baseline I don't think this will make the cut. Could be wrong though

Think you might need one more Elixir of Immortality effect. Maybe one of Day's Undoing, Diminishing Returns, Learn from the Past, or Psychic Spiral for dat nostalgia

I also think you need at least one more Spellbook effect. One of Library of Leng, Venser's Journal, or Spellbook itself

Lastly I think more acceleration is probably need. 6cmc is up there and I imagine people will be hesitant to let you untap with him. Not to mention the number of X-cost draws that will reward you for having lots of mana

Sidenote, Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind + Curiosity is going to anger me. A lot.

adanlaj on Oona's Flying Circus

1 year ago

Look at this primer to get an idea,

What I was seeing is that you need more permanent removal, not just tempo gainers. The Spellstutter Sprite is amazing with this permanent removal. What about some counter spells, like Faerie Trickery, Mana Leak, or Deprive? You probably need a few more counter spells,

There is a combat trick in Peppersmoke. But I don't think this will be all that helpful as your creatures will be weaker.

You also want draw, I don't think the Faerie Miscreants will do it for you. Think about adding something like Compulsive Research or maybe even Vivisection.

As you are using black I would also throw in some cheap hand distuption. Stuff like Duress or Despise, or even Transgress the Mind. This way you can rob them of the threats to your little guys. If I was going to include only one, I would make it the Duress to remove removal you will be facing. Maybe even throw in a Doom Blade just for fun.

Finally your lands, you might want to run a few Faerie Conclaves. This will help you get out faeries. You might also want to run som Bojuka Bogs for graveyard hate. While these will slow down the deck, they will provide you with answers too.

Finally the question of what to cut. I would say to cut the Faerie Miscreant, Pestermite,Cloudshift, Eerie Interlude, Essence Flux, Dance of Shadows, and Notorious Throng. All of these are very context dependent. If you draw them against the wrong kind of deck; the card will be dead in your hand. The fact that you want to bounce stuff to get the effects is great but the bounce spells are throwing off your mana base. This makes it incredibly difficult to get the mana you need when you need it. As such I would say to cut the white altogether, or go for a bounce deck and run Eldrazi Displacers.

scopesightzx on Leader of the Undead - ...

1 year ago

I had a grimgrin that was based around him attacking often, and I recently switched to Gisa and Geralf. Having the extra utility of things in your graveyard has been very impressive. Things like Skinrender and Fleshbag Marauder become repeatable removal options, things like Gravedigger can be repeated easily, and sacrifice outlets in general become much better. Vivisection was a carryover from the grimgrin deck, but it performs much better in Gisa and Geralf. A fun card i've started using with the twins is Ashes of the Fallen. Suddenly being able to cast any creature in my graveyard will open the deck up to more options, like Disciple of Bolas. In this deck, I still think Zombie Apocalypse has a home, just give your general indestructible or recur them from your graveyard in other ways.