It may seem obvious, but...
Idoneity, 3 days ago
Welp, I typically put a lot of thought into my edits, but this time I don't have to. I have cut Ramunap Excavator for the frankly broken Icetill Explorer.
Random updates - Mind Over Matter
MrHuffle, 3 days ago
+Whirlwind of Thought \\ -Guild Summit: Whirlwind will draw us about the same (probably even more) and costs 1 more, but it has three pips heh, worth it. Summit is also on theme, but I favor 3 pips to gates theme, gates is more so a wincon than a theme.
+Tempt with Discovery \\ -Ancient Cornucopia: While the life gain was nice, I'd rather just get Maze's End
, Gond Gate, Baldur's Gate, Field of the Dead, or Deserted Temple.
+Dryad of the Ilysian Grove \\ -Swamp: This seems wrong and I probably shouldn't be getting rid of lands, but it was between a Swamp and Open the Gates and I would rather be able to search for a gate to fix mana or another utility gate than have a swamp. Dryad added for obvious reasons, fixing and ramp.
+Leyline of the Guildpact \\ -Sultai Charm: Turns out fixing is really important in a five-color deck, it's really great if it's free and you start the game with it. Bonus points for 3+ pips.
+Mind Over Matter \\ -Sultai Ascendancy: Ascendancy just not doing enough for me, I find I usually have better things to cast. This deck draws a lot of cards and really, really likes to make mana and untap Maze's End whenever I desire, I figure Mind Over Matter is excellent utility in that regard. Once again, bonus points for 3+ pips.
I Finally Own This Deck in Paper!
Herb48, 3 days ago
I am happy to say after many years of having this deck up with a WAYYYYY different list than what I actually owned, I finally own this deck exactly as it is listed. I am still trying to get my hands on a few more really pricey cards, but looking to see where I can take this deck :)
Major Refine 1
xenomorphosis, 3 days ago
Additions:
- Fiendlash - Juicy juicy damage that gets doubled when it takes damage
- Fireshrieker - Double strike equip for Lightning
- Skeleton Key - A good block prevent and card draw
- Scrollshift - Card draw & bounce with many purpose. Can save Lightning, bounce Astor/Gilgamesh again
Maybeboard -> Main: - Arcbond - This card has so many silly uses
Removals:
- Paladin's Arms - its OK
- The Masamune - The block & first strike is good, but I don't have anything that makes use of the additional trigger ability
- Horn of the Mark - Don't need creatures
- Coral Sword - Lightning has first strike already
- Slash of Light - There are better deal damage abilities, not dependent on equipment/creatures
- Barret Wallace - Expensive
Main -> Sideboard:
- Explorer's Scope - Its OK for RNG land ramp.
- Professional Face-Breaker - Menace & Treasure is OK but weaker of abilities
- Rile - Don't need trample much, we're going all in on Lightning. Can find a better card draw that buffs Lightning
- Joshua, Phoenix's Dominant Flip - I really like this card, cycle your cards, and a strong transform to a saga that restores eventually and a 3/4 strong card. However the cost to exile and the 3 turns needed to proc his restore is very long. Will try without this in the deck but I like its usability.
- Ogre-Head Helm - Only has value after you have no hand. By then it seems unlikely you'll want to sacrifice a creature that is hitting the player... TBD
- Stoneforge Masterwork - Not going very wide with Lightning... its OK
- The One Ring - Removing cause its expensive and i think can get better value from others
- Ultimate Magic: Holy - Surge of Salvation might just be slightly better alternative...
- Mangara, the Diplomat - Really strong ability but not too much synergy... Could put back for card draw
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SilvValens, 3 days ago
Swapped out 2x Curse of Stalked Prey for 1x The Eternity Elevator and 1x Ouroboroid.
Day 1 Scanning.
Noahsucks, 3 days ago
Brother's war, Dominaria United and All will be one have had their initial passes.
I printed out the following cards to test: adsf
8/1/25: Decks Assembled.
Noahsucks, 3 days ago
They might be some of the worst decks ever put together but by Jove, they are legal edh decks and are ready to go through the process of improvement. Several adjustments needed to be made due to the strain the decks put on my collection. I am pretty burned out on MTG at the moment and will update the decks when I feel like it.
Third update, third day sorting
Idoneity, 3 days ago
As it turns out, I have some gas for this deck just lying around. I have cut Return of the Wildspeaker for Lifestream's Blessing.
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rwn1971, 3 days ago
Took out Victimize as not once have i found this useful and put in Virulent Silencer as i see this as another win con for my deck.
Experimental Version 1.1
Hyunkel, 3 days ago
So I chose to remove two Thirst for Discovery, in favor of a Jace, the Perfected Mind and Leyline of the Void, I also cut the Otawara, Soaring City to replace it with a Fountainport that synergizes better with the Bargain mechanic, I also added a Restless Reef for more milling in case our combo can't quite close out the game.
Jace serves the same purpose and has the benefit of comboing with Sphinx's Tutelage and The Water Crystal on its own, I also switched the two Deadly Cover-Up for a singular copy of Yahenni's Expertise and Languish which can both be fetched and played by Beseech the Mirror in case the situation would call for a boardwipe.
The deck itself is entirely searchable by it, which does matter quite a lot in matchups where you can't find your combo in time or just need to survive that one more turn and dig a little deeper into your deck. Overall, I would say the deck is far from being meta defining but it does sit in a comfortable spot among the many decks that flourish in Pioneer.
Also discovered that Memory Deluge and The Water Crystal is a bit of a non-bo so I swapped it for two Farsight Ritual which are arguably better than the former, in this deck, in almost every way possible.
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IQuarent, 3 days ago
IN: Railway Brawler, Rikku, Resourceful Guardian, Vivien, Monsters' Advocate
OUT: Simic Manipulator, Qarsi Revenant, Worldly Tutor
Cutting Worldly Tutor because it's a game changer. Trying to keep this deck high 2/low 3 range.
I thought Rikku would be more on game plan. I don't need lifegain THAT much, plus I have enough flying/reach on defense with Railway Brawler and Breena.
Simic Manipulator is a pet card of mine. It's not really on gameplan. I've never tutored for it. The times I've drawn it it's been too slow. Cutting it.
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rwn1971, 3 days ago
Took out Clockwork Hydra for a Power Plant Worker . Also took out Mishra's Self-Replicator for a Canoptek Wraith
Creatures are better than sorceries
Idoneity, 4 days ago
I have cut Splendid Reclamation for Lumra, Bellow of the Woods.
+1+1+1+1+1+1=?
Optimator, 5 days ago
I want to proxy a second copy of Doubling Season and add it to this deck (I own a real one in a different deck), so I'm adding some more +1+1 stuff. Should help with the token strategy anyway. There are a few more +1+1 cards I want to add, but I don't have them just yet.
Added: Scavenger Grounds, Disciple of Freyalise Flip, End-Raze Forerunners, Tribute to the World Tree, Loyal Guardian, Green Slime, and Elder Gargaroth.
Removed: a Forest, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Spawnwrithe, Predator Ooze, terastadon, and Mitotic Slime
I still really want to add some more upgrades, but there are a ton of pet cards I really don't want to remove.
They both draw, so...
Idoneity, 5 days ago
I have removed Spirited Companion for Celes, Rune Knight!
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x3n05had3, 5 days ago
(-) Reality Smasher (+) The Warring Triad = both offer same size body, but triad is less useless and a standalone creature (-) Ghalta, Primal Hunger (+) Yargle and Multani = higher attack, lower hp, cheaper. both don't selfGY, but yargle has a higher chance of dying if not discarded.
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x3n05had3, 5 days ago
(+) Singularity Rupture = 2nd field wipe, slightly on theme (+) The Darkness Crystal = 2 good effects, 3rd even better (+) Perigee Beckoner = warp trigger, recast "saved" creature trigger, warp latecast (-) Raven Guild Master = not a horror, has to do dmg to trigger exile (-) Dictate of Kruphix = duplicate howling mine (-) Mutated Cultist = effect not as commonly required
Cards... ;)
Idoneity, 5 days ago
I have removed Barren Moor and Ransack the Lab for the newly-printed Terrasymbiosis and Susur Secundi, Void Altar.