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Hollowborn Barghest
Creature — Demon Dog
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have no cards in hand, each opponent loses 2 life.
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, if that player has no cards in hand, he or she loses 2 life.
Saljen on Rat deck
6 years ago
Crypt Ghast would give you some ramp
Hollowborn Barghest isn't a rat, but the ability is quite good with your game plan.
Rackling same with this guy, another Rack but tied to a non-rat creature
Gibbering Descent, Bottomless Pit, Creeping Dread, and Necrogen Mists each give you reliable discard every turn
Oppression, painful quandry, and Geth's Grimoire give you more rewards when someone discards
Syphon Mind, Dark Deal, Smallpox, and Myojin of Night's Reach are all some good discard cards you're missing
Phyrexian Reclamation can let you re-play annoying creatures once people remove them, as well as provide draw for when you're top decking
Gray Merchant of Asphodel is a super solid black finisher and can keep you in the game a lot longer
Geier Reach Sanitarium gives you a discard trigger for everyone, and draws everyone another card which you can make them discard again
Attrition lets you use those rat tokens for repeatable removal
These are the cards that are probably under performing in your deck: Bone Splinters, Coercion, Death Stroke, Duress, Kaervek's Hex, Ostracize, Waking Nightmare, Ichor Rats, Typhoid Rats, Simulacrum, Subversion, Ordeal of Erebos,
StigIt2me on
6 years ago
You, my friend, look like you could use a Hollowborn Barghest and a Monomania. And while you're at it, why not throw in a Bloodchief Ascension (btw, that goes infinite with Mindcrank if that's your thing). Be careful when you look for discarders; a lot of them aren't worth the card stock they're printed on. I have a theory-crafted Crosis deck you can use as a reference.
Crosis's Vengeance
Commander / EDH*
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Jatch on Soul of Malfegor
6 years ago
Thanks for the comment, Kandrel. I honestly hadn't realized that I had taken so many of the pure discard effects out, that cards like Shrieking Affliction had become pretty bad, so thanks for pointing that out! The goal of this deck isn't really to make everyone groan, so I'm not sure I want to punish the card draw too much, especially with symmetrical effects like Spiteful Visions, but I'll have to think about it. I'll be looking into replacing Lavaborn Muse, Shrieking Affliction, Quest for the Nihil Stone, and maybe Hollowborn Barghest as well. Thanks!
Dimensionless on
6 years ago
Leaner and meaner:
Obelisk of Grixis > Chrome Mox
Evacuation > Paradoxical Outcome
Voltaic Key > Pacification Array
Decree of Pain > Crook of Condemnation
Hollowborn Barghest > Rampaging Ferocidon
Planar Portal > Mystical Tutor
Dimensionless on
6 years ago
Never > DreadboreCruel Ultimatum > TerminateCrosis's Charm > VandalblastVoltaic Key > Pacification ArrayObelisk of Grixis > Chrome MoxManalith > Coldsteel Heart Decree of Pain > Crook of CondemnationHollowborn Barghest > Rampaging FerocidonNicol Bolas, Planeswalker > Dimir House GuardRazaketh's Rite > PerplexPlanar Portal > Mystical TutorCurator of Mysteries > Muddle the Mixture
DaringApprentice on Part-ners: Ravos, SoulCycler
7 years ago
This looks like a lot of fun, great to see these blasts from the past get used! One card that you might consider for ramp is Thran Turbine, could give you a free cycle each turn. As for lower CMC creatures, some that I think could be useful are Cryptbreaker, Stoic Champion, Ruthless Sniper, Cho-Arrim Alchemist, Pack Rat, Skirk Ridge Exhumer, Undertaker, and Devout Witness, since they get a different kind of value out of discards than cycling. Similarly, Key to the City and Smuggler's Copter can allow you to use discards for different kinds of value.
As far as other cards related to cycling go, did you consider Ash Barrens, Gilded Light, Stir the Sands, Unearth, Radiant's Judgment, Street Wraith, Viscera Dragger, and Pitiless Vizier? I'm not sure if those fit in perfectly, but they might be worth considering.
If you wanted to make all players discard but have you benefit more from it, you might consider cards like Oppression and Necrogen Mists. I also think Library of Leng is worth looking at, but it might not fit your strategy.
Do you think getting Hellbent is something you are looking to do with this deck? If the former, maybe something like Gibbering Descent, Asylum Visitor, Dark Suspicions, Grim Strider, or Hollowborn Barghest could be interesting. In either case, some card draw like Phyrexian Arena could be very useful.
Also, watch out for Stabilizer!
Bif_Slagthor on My First EDH Deck (Suggestions Needed)
7 years ago
Interesting. A few pointers/suggestions; Your CMC (converted mana cost) is extremely high, hovering around 4.5. A good number to try and start at is around 3 to 3.5, and tweak it from there. Your deck also seems to have a bit of an identity crisis, where it is both big butts, life gain and sacrifice all at once. I would try and focus on two of those instead of all three. Since you said this is mostly for friends, i assume that it isn't super competitive, so here are a few suggestions for cuts and suggested replacements: Baleful Eidolon- its just a 1/1 deathtouch for 2 unless you pay a ton of mana. Replace with Sakura-Tribe Elder for ramp. Eater of Hope just a mediocre creature, replace with Silklash Spider so you can have a big butt and deal with fliers. Hollowborn Barghest is just a bad creature, really. replace with Blinding Angel or Defiant Bloodlord, which both do cool things. Necropolis Fiend just fights with your little bit of recursion. Id replace with Murder or Hero's Downfall so you have a kill spell. I would love to give more suggestions right now, but i don't have enough time right now. leave a comment on my wall or reply to me and I'll definitely get back to you. And welcome to Commander!