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|Duel Decks: Izzet vs. Golgari||Uncommon|
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Choose one Counter target noncreature spell unless its controller pays . Izzet Charm deals 2 damage to target creature. Draw two cards, then discard two cards.
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Izzet Charm Discussion
2 days ago
Is Baral #4 really better than Electromancer #4? Seems like you would only ever want 1 Baral but multiple electros are fine, sometimes even good. Thought Scour also seems weak given that it's just Reach Through Mists until you PiF, and GUn into PiF is game anyways if you have a Baral. Honestly Merchant Scroll or Izzet Charm both seem soo much better than that. As for the sideboard Crumble to Dust doesn't seem like it does anything, ritualing into it is the only way you'd be able to cast it soon enough for it to be relevant and that seems bad. What deck would you want 3 copies of Empty against? Honestly I think the Madcap Experiment into Platinum Emperion package is the way to go with storm sideboards right now.
3 days ago
3 days ago
Hey Peanut3181 thanks for the comments.
I agree, it's possible, but it's not really working. I'm building (separately) a prototype of this deck, which I'll import. I'm re-evaluating each card for it's 1) Mana Production value and 2) It's storm count interaction. I feel without the Storm there is not enough consistent win-con. Trying to figure out which ones are the best, haven't done a full analysis yet. It feels like Ignite Memories is good, and Grape Shot. Mind's Desire is kind of interesting too.
Any idea which one, or which couple I should be running? There all Sorcery. Grapeshot feels like it may not have enough power to eliminate all opponents in 1 shot, where Ignite Memories has some potential? I do play spells which is why Mind's Desire can be a big concerning.
Once I have my analysis done I'll update it. Removing a bunch of creatures, and only using combos and synergy that also aid in my storm counts as well. I'm going to get the red ramping Mana Geyser and probably Seething Song in there too.
Another issue I'm having with the deck is with getting going. I'm used to my Kaalia of the Vast where I'm setup on turn 2, 3, 4 and winning on turn 6. Playing Melek, Izzet Paragon I feel like turn 9 I'm still waiting and somewhat defenseless. I've had some success defending with Cyclonic Rift and Snap with some flashback and copy early on, but I feel it needs to ramp faster.
I think this is because of your recommendation that I need more drawing, but not sure which way to go, Visions of Beyond, Gitaxian Probe or larger draws. I'm going to pull a list to list comparison with your build and see which ones I'm missing. Telling Time maybe?
What's your opinion on Izzet Charm, I find it nice because it's modular, but a few games now none of the modes helped me in so many situations. Scrub it?
Sensei's Divining Top has been great at utilizing Melek, Izzet Paragon once he is out, but what other good options are there? Deranged Assistant was kind of like hmm because he helps with mana production, but the isn't that awesome, would be better.
Any other ways to keep my top decking going smoothly?
2 weeks ago
Spreading Seas can be pseudo-land removal, particularly in Modern. Plus draws a card.
Lightning Bolt seems like it should automatically be in here, I was surprised it wasn't.
Izzet Charm for the flexibility.
Other than that, my mind goes odd places. Like to Fog Bank, for instance. :)
2 weeks ago
I really like Izzet Charm but there are so many other better options that do the same things that I never use it. Lol
Cool! I defiantly need the help with it, I'll let you two know when I get the creatures redone tonight. Also I got my foil Liliana Vess in the mail today, and oh my, I have fallen in love all over again!
3 weeks ago
I agree that for your deck, the Xenagos, God of Revels, while cool when it hits, is probably a bit more of a win-more card. I also didn't think about the fact you run Polymorph alongside Indomitable Creativity. The Izzet Charm definitely offers a bit more versatility than the Faithless Looting. Suppose it'll just come down to whether you find yourself using the other modes much, and if those times are worth the extra casting cost. Especially if they're replacing Serum Visions, that definitely lowers your options on turn 1. I'm looking forward to seeing where this deck goes
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the input ! See beyond has done a good job for me so far but you're right that sometimes it's not enough to dump the fatties from my hand. I've also been considering Izzet Charm to help, but I think replacing Serum Visions with Faithless Looting is the right way to go. As for Xenagos, God of Revels, he does combo really well with Blightsteel Colossus, but would not be great to hit alone off of Polymorph. I may still add him to the sideboard against slower matchups where I can cast Indomitable Creativity for x=2-3.