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At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control no permanents other than Barren Glory and have no cards in hand, you win the game.
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Barren Glory Discussion
3 days ago
I am using Fiery Temper aswell as Avacyn's Judgment because I can almost always pay the madness cost using my discard outlets: Oona's Prowler, Ravenous Bloodseeker and Tormenting Voice. Fiery Temper is mainly my first pick because of Tormenting Voice which lets me cast it while digging my deck for either the mana I need to cast Barren Glory or Barren Glory itself.
1 month ago
BacktraF Use cards like Second Sunrise and Faith's Reward to help combo with your Atogatog sacrifice strategy. Add Maze's End as a wincon for this deck. If you are willing to drop a bunch of money for this deck, Scapeshift can help you win the game with Maze's End out of no where. Barren Glory is another funny way to win that's more budget friendly (use your Atogs to sac everything you have and win on upkeep). You would just need a way to get cards out of your hands after sacing everything. Luckily, One with Nothing can do it right before your turn for the low low cost one 1 black mana. Solid.
If you want to do more of the creature type strategy, look at some of the new cards from 2017 such as Herald’s Horn and Traverse the Outlands (which can combo well with Lithatog if you like sacrificing all your lands before you cast it). A lot of them are really good. Take care!
2 months ago
What are your thoughts on getting that in there? I understand RiP doesn't fit with a recursion theme.
A fun combo that I don't recommend but will note here for the laughs, Academy Rector is an auto include and a piece that can be used with Kaervek's Spite and Barren Glory. Just Academy Rector on board, Barren Glory in Library, cast Kaervek's Spite on your opponents end step right before your turn, tutor Barren Glory and win.
2 months ago
This deck has so many options to win, it's pretty much impossible to find out what could possibly be your next attempt...this is really cool in weaker playgroups because you will often pull off unexpected moves and people will never know what to expect.
One huge problem you will have though is that you lack focus. You can win with so many different tricks and combos that you may lose long before you even see two parts that go together, especially because most of the combos don't share a lot of cards and they don't work well together or even have completely different goals, like Barren Glory and Epic Struggle. The stronger your opponents are the less likely it becomes that you actually manage to go for a win. As soon as someone finds out what options you have in the current situation, it's very easy to disrupt because you can't just replace lost parts or search for another win option, you just have to wait what you draw into.
2 months ago
I've got a simmilar deck, but I took it down to 4 colours to focus on pure counters based alt wincons. Barren Glory also has a great combo with Oblivion Ring and Kaervek's Spite. Exile your own Barren Glory and then cast Kaervek's Spite in your upkeep.
Also, don't forget Azor's Elocutors.
3 months ago
For the record, Barren Glory is NOT a functional reprint of The Cheese Stands Alone. Barren Glory triggers during your next upkeep, making it strictly worse than The Cheese Stands Alone which triggers as soon as all conditions are met. You can answer Barren Glory with sorcery speed removal, which won't cut it against the big cheese.
3 months ago
3 months ago
@TheDeckMaker2300:oh jeez, long comments necessitate long responses: (also, I havn't been on in a while, sorry)
The decklist hasn't bee updated, but the maybeboard sure has! I need to figure out what I can take out now...Also, apologies for the brutalistic formatting, i'm not sophisticated enough to make this reply look very nice.
Diabolic Tutor and other searches: i had more in at an earlier version, and while they are certainly good, they sort of take away from the fun of the deck. I found myself searching for and playing for the same 2 or three win cons every game, which is not the point of the deck. That's why i prefer more limited searches like Bring to Light or Wild Research
Final Fortune, I've thought long about. I'm still on the fence, but don't think it would be very fun to play against. Almost all of the win cons give the opponent a turn to respond (except Coalition Victory, hence banned) and this is so that there's interaction and counterplay. Final Fortune takes that away, and so while it certainly makes the deck better, (and fits the theme/playstyle perfectly!) I dont want to end games with a sudden. "oh hey, does anyone have any counter spells, or instant speed enchantment removal? if not, i win..." That being said, its such a cool card, it fits with the theme of big risks, big rewards (Doomsday), and can even be synergized with anti-lose mechanics! maybe if I found something to take out....
charge counters: the very first iteration of the deck was mostly about odd counter manipulation. I used all those weird storage counter lands, and could get them super high for a helix pinnacle insta-win. The problem is that those cards arn't very flexible, for the most part. theres a high likelihood that any of those proliferate or counter duplication cards would be dead drops in hand, or would become useless after someone o-ringed the win con. (granted, there are many cards in the deck which are dead drops (stupid Mortal Combat, I've never won with you...))
Barren Glory: ooooh, I am a big fan of Kaervek's Spite, so long as you inform your opponent beforehand that they are basically at 15 life to start (mind games!) I coulda sworn Apocalypse was banned, but even it if wasn't it does not look fun to play against.... I think I'll be making a spot for Kaervek's Spite asap, thanks. \
Infinite Reflections seems like a more expensive version of Mirrorweave, and as I only need the trigger to check once, the permanency is unnecessary. It's also less flexible, but can target legendaries... hmmmmm.... that might be sideboarded for my friends Kokusho, the Evening Star deck, at least.
Alhammarret's Archive: this is one baller card! i don't have a lot of creatures or attacking going on in this deck, and when i gain life, id rather it be in fell swoops, not in trickles, so this is awesome.
Epic Struggle: the problem is that most of the token generators are too slow to really make it- they would require at least 3 or 4 turns to get over 20 creatures. In order to make them viable, therefore, I'd have to run multiple copies, which again runs into the problem of having too much support for one win con. that being said, tokens make good chump blockers, so they wont be a dead drop ever... def on my watch list.
Amulet of Vigor would simply make this deck play two turns faster. it would be so good. It's 7$, but I may splurge for it...
for the gate synergy: I'm actually mana flooded more often than not, if you can believe it, so I'm loath to put in more ramp. i usually have a small graveyard, and a huge exile pile, otherwise Splendid Reclamation might be a good idea. (granted, with Morality Shift it would be killer!)
Helix Pinnacle: I'm actually happy with where this is right now- its a 1 drop that's hard to remove, and even if someone does remove it it's, again, a 1 drop so i won that trade. There are easy and cheap ways to get infinite mana, 99 paths to infinite mana, but i usually can afford to dump 1-3 mana in each turn, so mid to late game, when i'm sitting on near 20 mana, its a viable threat people have to watch out for. artifacts: neither of those really need that much support, and so whenever possible I try to save deck slots for those that need the support. that being said, if theres a way to get a large amount of artifacts out at once, feasibly, not just 4 or 5 or a slow growth, i might consider it.
MORTAL KOMBAT!!!!: lost cause... it has enough support in the deck to make it technically possible, but I'm resigned to it being a dead drop at this point...
Laboratory Maniac: i have Demonic Consultation in other decks, i don't recall why it isn't in this one... the problem with a lot of the cards that work with the manic is that they get close, but don't actually destroy my library. and given how easy he is to remove or work around, the combo needs to be perfect, or else trying for it just hurts me. That said, he is one of the more frequent ways I win, or at least one of the more frequent threats I have.
Mayael's Aria: I like the Colossus of Akros and Serra Avatar a lot- they both work as stalling mechanics, and that gives cover for their true purpose, the Aria! (do note, this deck is always in danger of just getting killed by people swinging at it... :( )
NDE: Hatred is niiiiice, however 6$, so i probably shouldn't find a slot for it... as far as NDE support goes, it's actually covered quite decently, this is another one of those cards which sees play a lot. the liches are super cool cards, and i dont think they work very well here, but I honestly would like to make a deck centered around those mechanics, or other 'below-0' life total mechanics.
I thought long and hard about Transcendence, but there's no way to make it viable without a ton of support, and
i already have a zedruu deck where Transcendence is just cruel in.
Thanks for your help! its always nice to see people taking an interest in something I've done, and its always awesome to get new ideas or have new combos pointed out to me!