Whenever an opponent is dealt 3 or more damage by a single source, that player discards a card.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Pain Magnification occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
Pain Magnification Discussion
3 days ago
Suggestions: - Quest for the Nihil Stone only because having no cards in hand is a tougher ask than 1 in hand for the other spell. May be a bit win-more. - Primal Amulet Flip, Snapcaster Mage are both good tools for different decks -- this one doesn't seem very much spells-matter, so these slots are likely weaker here than what they could be doing elsewhere. - Kaya's Ghostform is just too meh to be worth its slot. You can already get stuff back with better methods. - Ugin, the Spirit Dragon should be on your watch list. You won't always be ahead on board state, but if you have your enchants out and stuff then he will wreck you as easily as he wrecks everyone else with his -x - Pain Magnification might be win-morey or just get you targeted if people keep having to notice your enchants when they get hit by other people. Its awesome, though with your discard punishers. Watch-list item, I'd say. - Panharmonicon is obviously awesome, but it may not be great with your current makeup, as ETBs aren't the prime focus.
1 month ago
I keep going back and forth on Orzhov Advokist & Pain Magnification , for opposite things, Advokist I feel doesn't pump enough (although the not being attacked is nice) & Pain mag I think would draw the hate. Although I think I am going to try it.
1 month ago
Pain Magnification is another way to incentivize opponents to attack each other. It's essentially a curse that covers all opponents and is a fun political card.
4 months ago
Personally, I'd probably drop that one sub-theme from the deck and devote the slots either to my own self-discard strategy or shore up any other sub-themes you may want to foster. If you go that route, look at Glint-Horn Buccaneer because he was basically made for this deck.
That being said, I really do enjoy some individuality and personal flavor/spin on decks.
So if you do wish to continue with the strategy you might want to open a card slot or two (since you're currently sitting at 9ish pieces). Some cards you may want to consider to add: Pain Magnification if you see yourself reliably dealing 3+ damage, Hypnotic Specter for a 3cmc attack discard engine or Liliana's Specter if you prefer ETBs, Banshee of the Dread Choir for a 5cmc discard monstrosity (lets face it Myriad is cool).
You just have to decide how much flavor you want out of your deck at the cost of efficiency.
7 months ago
"One-card wincons" to consider: Insurrection , Expropriate , Painful Quandary , Rise of the Dark Realms , Revel in Riches , Cut / Ribbons . Perhaps Clone Legion , Rite of Replication , Mogis, God of Slaughter , Hour of Promise , Blatant Thievery , Grave Betrayal , or Mind's Dilation .
One thing to think about is getting Nicol Bolas flipped and maybe joined by the other planeswalkers and casting Obliterate , Jokulhaups , Devastation , or Decree of Annihilation . Almost guaranteed ultimates. Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God would be the best--proxy for now and include in first build?
Boardwipes: Toxic Deluge , Black Sun's Zenith , Hour of Devastation , Decree of Pain , Curse of the Swine , In Garruk's Wake , Deadly Tempest , Evacuation , Nevinyrral's Disk , Last One Standing , Perilous Vault , Oblivion Stone , Kindred Dominance , Necromantic Selection , Subterranean Tremors
Removal: Capsize , Bedevil , Hero's Downfall , Chaos Warp , Kolaghan's Command , Reality Shift , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Vraska's Contempt , Rakdos Charm , Price of Fame , In Bolas's Clutches , Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Unstable Obelisk , Vandalblast , By Force , Shatterstorm , Hostage Taker , Yawgmoth's Vile Offering , Settle the Score , Dark Impostor , Hour of Glory , Sever the Bloodline , Silence the Believers , Spread the Sickness , Slave of Bolas , Electrodominance
Draw: (I would add Erebos once you're home) Patient Rebuilding , Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Notion Thief , Windfall , Mystical Tutor , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Stroke of Genius , Braingeyser , Mind Spring , Expansion / Explosion , Invoke the Firemind , Deliver Unto Evil , Augur of Bolas , Painful Truths , Fevered Visions , Search for Azcanta Flip, Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time , Treasure Cruise , Tidings , Thassa, God of the Sea , Day's Undoing , Reforge the Soul , Standstill , Deep Analysis , Necrologia , Steady Progress , Tezzeret's Gambit , Oath of Jace
Random utility: Ophiomancer , Metallurgic Summonings , As Fortold, Pendrell Mists , No Mercy , Stranglehold , Fated Return , Dark Intimations , Spellseeker , Sire Of Insanity , Thief of Sanity , Spark Double , Primal Amulet Flip, Dragon's Hoard , Mystic Retrieval , Shreds of Sanity , Spelltwine , Ashiok, Dream Render , Torpor Orb , Baleful Strix , Darksteel Myr , Solemn Simulacrum , Wayfarer's Bauble , Vedalken Orrery , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Will Kenrith , Mana Geyser , Gem of Becoming , Thran Dynamo , Narset, Parter of Veils , Keranos, God of Storms , Thrilling Encore , Star Compass , Coldsteel Heart , Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , Ensnaring Bridge , Crawlspace , Expedition Map , Burnished Hart , Torment of Scarabs , Cruel Reality , Mnemonic Betrayal , Yawgmoth's Will , Bloodchief Ascension , Nightscape Familiar , Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Dreadhorde Invasion , Fraying Omnipotence , Thrummingbird , Viral Drake , Past in Flames , Mizzix's Mastery , Omniscience , Tainted AEther , Aid the Fallen , Deepglow Skate , Flux Channeler , Rings of Brighthearth , Silent Arbiter , Meekstone , Mudslide , Astral Cornucopia , Everflowing Chalice , Lethal Vapors , Sunbird's Invocation , Stolen Strategy , Maze of Ith , Spreading Plague , Merchant Scroll , Polluted Bonds , Black Market , Grave Upheaval , Memory Plunder , Pain Magnification
Beaters: Dragonlord Silumgar , The Scorpion God , The Locust God , The Scarab God , God-Eternal Kefnet , God-Eternal Bontu , Darksteel Colossus , Colossus of Akros , Visara the Dreadful , Tsabo Tavoc , Avatar of Woe , Balefire Dragon , Nicol Bolas , Hellkite Tyrant , Bladewing the Risen , Grave Titan , Inferno Titan , Steel Hellkite , Vampire Nighthawk , Torrential Gearhulk , Noxious Gearhulk , Combustible Gearhulk , Dominus of Fealty , Roil Elemental , Tidespout Tyrant , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Ryusei, the Falling Star , Wrexial, the Risen Deep , Etali, Primal Storm , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Tetzimoc, Primal Death , Dread , The Haunt of Hightower , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Enigma Drake , Crackling Drake , Archfiend of Depravity , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Thing in the Ice Flip, Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Sepulchral Primordial , Molten Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled , Sire of Stagnation , Utvara Hellkite
7 months ago
After some Games I really noticed how hard it is to get Lands in your hand. Since Niv won't ever get you some from the top of your library. Thought of the Borderposts, but I really don't like them. I made some changes for flat draws.
I often got 2-3 Selesnya cards, so I also got closer to have an even amount of cards from every guild. I need to cut one more Selesnya Card for a Gruul card, but guys, this is hard.
Things I took out:
Lim-Dul's Vault - The base idea was, use it in response to the Niv trigger. But most times no mana after he etb's, or I used it already for copy/flicker
Voidslime - Many Colored Symbols, Don't like counterspells that much, still have 1 ability counter in the deck
Hanna, Ship's Navigator - No spare mana most of the times. No Artifacts, not a critical mass of enchantments
Turn to Mist - Mistmeadow Witch is a Permanent for devotion, and repeatable
Congregation at Dawn - Like Lim Duls
Brago, King Eternal - Idea was T4 Brago, T5 Niv with flicker. Brago gets removed most of the times.
Flower / Flourish - Since it says basic, no need anymore
Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist - Needed to cut more Selesnya
Growth Spiral - Didn't have a Land very often, Urban Evolution took this slot, maybe worth it
Mortify - Orzhov Removal
Mistmeadow Witch - Upgraded Turn to mist
Underrealm Lich - "Draw" to filter for lands
Pain Magnification - Rakdos Card Advantage, Permanent for Devotion
Utter End - More Orzhov, More Removal
Wear / Tear - Good Boros Removal
Mercurial Chemister - Mostly for the Draw, is a permanent for Devotion
Urban Evolution - Draw and Ramp
Spring / Mind - Draw and Ramp, with 7 card handsize often I need to discard. Aftermath does help there
Notion Thief - Don't know why didn't put him in the first Version. Permanent, Carddraw, Stops opponents
I'm open for tips or help, but keep in Mind everything needs to be Two-Colored Landbase may get an upgrade soon. If the deck works really good I'll swap slow fetches for the good ones.
8 months ago
I don't think this deck is very fast, but I don't think it needs to be. It just needs to be fast enough to make your opponent think twice before just taking 3 from Revolution.
I don't think Pain Magnification is that good, but you seem to have come to the same conclusion as well. It takes too much setup, and it quickly runs out of potential as your opponent runs out of cards in hand.
Wrench Mind is fine, but I personally wouldn't play it outside of a discard themed deck.
Vexing Devil I'm on the fence about. I usually only really think it's good in really fast zoo decks, and Claim / Fame burns. Since you're not super fast, your opponent can pretty easily take the 4 damage a lot of the time. However, it is pretty good with Hidden Stockpile . Ultimately I think you can do better.
Not sure you have enough Instants to support Isochron Scepter , but if you do, the card is really, really powerful.
Mishra's Bauble , Chromatic Star , Lightning Helix (to replace Lightning Strike ), Bomat Courier , and Arcbound Ravager _(which is extrememly expensive, but also OP af) could be some additions/replacements
8 months ago
Kjartan So this deck came from an idea a friend of mine had that abused the Pia's Revolution and then the mentioned deck in the description gave me the idea to use Hangarback Walker and Walking Ballista for easy triggers. I also noticed an interesting synergy with Hidden Stockpile and maybe Impact Tremors for an alternate win condition, but after that, I'm at a loss as what to add to help the deck perform. Pain Magnification sounded like a fun addition with the discard and the 3 damage synergy from Pia's, but it doesnt feel like it fits well. Also, most of the cards are up for debate as I've just gotten stuck. I'm not used to faster decks, which I wanted to change, as you probably noticed from my muldrotha graveyard deck (which I've had some good success with after your help, so thank you for that). Do you mind helping me narrow the card selection down and giving me pointers on the faster playstyle?