Updated list!
BirdieGirlie, 1 hour ago
Added some cards and played a game with this deck yesterday! I had Nikya in my opening hand so I was really worried I'd play it and not be able to play Bigger on the Inside, but I did one cascade before I knew I'd have to cast Nikya on my next turn and what do you know, it was my next card to draw anyway! And I'm so glad I did bc it went OFF. I used the mana to cast Nikya and was sad bc I thought it wouldn't cascade into anything, BUT THEN I remembered Anger!!!! Once I finally got Anger into the graveyard it was over for those hoes lolzzz!!!!! I also cascaded into Malignus and it was amazing too!!!! It was such a fun game and I won!!!!! Only thing I'd maybe change is the mana base. I think there's too many mountains rn. It's harder to cast any card with green in it off the mana given by Alena because all of it is red. Sometimes I just need one green to do it and don't have it on hand. Will prob switch out two ish mountains for forests? Maybe also something to reliably cascade into Anger.
On-theme upgrades
Gameboide, 4 hours ago
Out >> In:
Dragon Cultist >> Dragon Broodmother (better way to produce dragon tokens)
Hamletback Goliath >> Arasta of the Endless Web (I love this card but I need tokens!)
Search for Tomorrow >> Encroaching Dragonstorm (reusable ramp to account for commander tax, and I get rid of suspend)
Rift Sower >> Utopia Mycon (more on-theme, and I get rid of suspend)
Radha, Heir to Keld >> Grand Warlord Radha (new Radha does synergize with Rith)
Nature's Claim >> Artifact Mutation (useful card but I need token generators, also more on-theme)
Decimate >> Aura Mutation (same as previous one)
Forgotten Ancient >> Baylen, the Haymaker (strengthen tokens theme at expense of counters subtheme)
Hardened Scales >> Rite of Harmony (useful but not much counter support in this deck, and I need card draw)
Centaur Glade >> Garruk's Uprising (I loose a useful mana sink but I get trample and some card draw)
Mana base update
VeniVidiVorthos, 10 hours ago
Changed the mana base up. Modernized it. Creeping Tar Pit just wasn't hitting like it used to. I'm testing out the surveil lands and triome, and Fiery Islet is just good. I'm also going to be play testing Hour of Devastation as well as the Defeat cycle. I'm not sold on them yet, but I think they might be better than I initially thought...
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Chaoticslinky, 1 day ago
OUT Maelstrom Nexus * Nature's Will * Opal Palace * Sidisi, Undead Vizier IN Delighted Halfling * Iridian Maelstrom * Conqueror's Flail * Mantle of the Ancients
Thanks for the suggestions!
MagicalStudies, 1 day ago
Walking Ballista was the best suggestion ever! It gives me a place to dump my extra mana, extra +1/+1 counters, can deal direct damage, and gets found and played with Turntimber Symbiosis?! Too good guys. Thanks! I may play this again now that the ban was lifted off of faithless looting. -Brandon
Adding Game Changers EDIT: and Tutors
Reuben_Medik, 1 day ago
I got bored, and decided to look up what counted as Game Changers. I saw a few things I expected, like Tutors and such... But I also saw some things that I own and am not currently using. With that said, I decided to add some of them in
Strict Proctor is being exchanged for Drannith Magistrate, same cmc and p/t. The main thing is that it stops other players from casting anything from anywhere other than their hand
I also found Tergrid, God of Fright Flip. I thought about removing Sweet-Gum Recluse to make room for it, the cascade effect is pretty cool, but I don't really know EDIT: On second thought I don't think I'd get much value from Tergrid. I don't have anything to that forces sacrifices or discards, and Trostani Discordant would just get in the way of that. That said, I think I'll be removing SGR with Tamiyo's Journal, which would be a good source of card draw at the very least. I also think I need another tutor of some kind. I've got Beseech the Queen, which I might swap in for TJ, unless I can find some good sources of Clues. I'm sure I can find something worth while if I keep looking into it
Last of the game changers is Chrome Mox. ETB, it exiles a card from my hand, and I can tap it to generate a mana of any of the exiled cards colours, all for 0 cmc. To make room I'll be removing Short Bow. It gives +1/+1 reach and vigilance. It's alright, I guess, but I'm thinking CM will be more useful EDIT: I swapped out Chrome Mox for Mox Amber. Now I don't need to exile anything, and MA is Legendary, and so is Indestructible when Avacyn's Memorial in on the field
Oh yeah I also got my hands on an Assault Formation, I took out Solid Footing for it. I also got a Jet Medallion and Emerald Medallion, I might add those, bit I don't know what to exchange for them
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Dunadan37x, 1 day ago
Card Changes (Not Complete)
sloneketters, 1 day ago
Descent into Avernus for Chandra's Phoenix Fire Nation Palace for Blood Moon Mines of Moria for Chandra's Outrage
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Chaoticslinky, 2 days ago
Back at it 9 years later to slightly change things with a couple new cards: OUT Carven Caryatid * Wall of Blossoms * Ezuri, Renegade Leader * Riftsweeper * Winged Coatl IN Clement, the Worrywort * Utopia Sprawl * Troyan, Gutsy Explorer * Scuttling Sentinel * Lonis, Cryptozoologist
Update
ZeusInc25, 3 days ago
Out: Tectonic Split, Need for Speed, Nahiri's Lithoforming, Lotus Field, Toph the First Metalbender, Rootpath Purifier Haven't enjoyed having Lotus Field or Tectonic Split in hand. They feel very clunky and hard to play. Toph the First Metalbender isnt as impactful as the other earthbend cards so its being sidelined for now. Haven't played Rootpath Purifier and Nahiri's Lithoforming yet but I feel like other cards will have more impact. In: Chaos Warp, Embrace the Unknown, Life from the Loam, Lovisa Coldeyes, Oracle of Mul Daya, Stroke of Midnight Chaos Warp and Stroke of Midnight are in cause the deck is too removal lite. Embrace the unknown for some repeatable draw and land sacrifice. Oracle of Mul Daya for more lands per turn. Life from the Loam for synergy with my land tutors and non desert recursion. Lovisa for combat power
Lorwyn Eclipsed - Update
CrimsonWings3689, 3 days ago
Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord to replace Mindcrank
---- You're already not running Bloodchief Ascension or any of the other typical 2-card combos in color (ex. Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood), so it's a powerful piece without it's partner(s). Beavis without Butthead, if you would. Sorin has multiple ways to contribute to your vampire centric game plan, including being able to cheat a vampire from hand into play with his -3.
Henrika Domnathi Flip to replace Bloodgift Demon
---- Cheaper card, options for what you need over 3 turns. In tribe + good beater.
Florian, Voldaren Scion to replace Taurean Mauler
---- Effective card draw/selection on a solid body with first strike.
Voldaren Estate to replace Path of Ancestry
Haunted Ridge to replace Exotic Orchard
Bleachbone Verge to replace Orzhov Basilica
Blazemire Verge to replace Rugged Prairie
Sunbillow Verge to replace Boros Garrison
Arcane Signet to replace Worn Powerstone
---- Faster mana/color fixing that doesn't require you to take a turn off. The deck is hungry for colors.
NIghthawk Scavenger to replace Vampire Nighthawk
---- Strict upgrade that can be bigger.
Ruthless Lawbringer to replace Vindicate
---- Similar removal at sorcery speed (minus the ability to hit a land). You get a vampire for the effort that's decently statted. Sac a token, and Edgar's ability will have you getting a token to replace it. It's almost a 1:1.
Midnight Arsonist to replace Olivia, Mobilized for War
---- Blow out potential for non-mana rocks vs an expensive way to grant haste to one of your creatures. She's a decent body and rarely much else.
Cordial Vampire to replace Mirror Entity
---- Naturally going to grow your army as things die vs needing to sink the mana all at once.
Redemption Choir to replace Bishop of Rebirth
---- Very likely to always have Coven to trigger the reanimation. You get it on a body that reanimates on ETB and attack, for 1 mana less, vs only on attack. It's also a permanent with cmc3 or less and not just a creature.
Dusk Legion Sergeant to replace Yahenni, Undying Partisan
---- Cheaper to cast and has the potential to blank a boardwipe by sacrificing it if you have the mana up. Yahenni can only save itself.
Markov Baron to replace Legion Lieutenant
---- Likely to be free or cheaper with tapping creatures for Convoke, also has lifelink. Added benefit of being able to be cast as it's discarded.
Preacher of the Schism to replace Dark Impostor
---- Dark Impostor is a very expensive means of removal, with 9 mana needed to remove the first creature. Preacher just does more of what your deck already wants to do.
Additional cards to keep an eye out for:
Bloodletter of Aclazotz to replace Olivia Voldaren
---- There's been a ton of great vampires to come out since the deck was made. Olivia's a decent mana sink, but at a rate of 7 mana to steal something, she's pricey. With Bloodletter you're not losing a flying body to block with, and it being a damage multiplier makes for bigger turns.
Charismatic Conqueror to replace Gifted Aetherborn
---- Charismatic Conqueror will generate a TON of value over a game.
Savai Triome to replace Nomad Outpost
---- Incremental upgrade. Allows for it to be discarded to draw when you're desperate. Also counts as all 3 land types for things like Dragonskull Summit to ETB untapped.
Stroke of Midnight to replace Mortify
---- Wider range of targets for the cost of giving them a 1/1 human token
Chronicle of Victory to replace ???
---- Could be a potential deck top-end card to provide a ton of value in a single card.
You'll also have Crossway Troublemakers and Baron Bertram Graywater available in the bundle of cards being sent over to consider.
Lorwyn Eclipsed - Update
CrimsonWings3689, 3 days ago
Arcane Signet to replace Simic Signet
Breeding Pool to replace Simic Growth Chamber
Deeproot Pilgrimage to replace Chart a Course
Vodalian Hexcatcher to replace Harbinger of the Tides
Dreamroot Cascade to replace Halimar Depths
Rejuvenating Springs to replace Lumbering Falls
Sodden Verdure to replace Yavimaya Coast
Additional cards to keep an eye out for:
Lord of Atlantis could replace Merfolk Mistbinder, as it's functionally a better lord effect since it gives Islandwalk
Mist Dancer, Mutational Advantage, Attuma, Atlantean Warlord, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Harbinger of the Seas
Nurture me mommy
NonetheWeisser, 4 days ago
Trying 2 copies of Nurturing Peatland im case we find ourselves in top deck mode. Unsure if the damage will be worth it. Will only know after proper testing.
