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|Commander: Rule 0
As Gilt-Leaf Palace enters the battlefield, you may reveal an Elf card from your hand. If you don't, Gilt-Leaf Palace enters the battlefield tapped.
Tap: Add (Black) or (Green) to your mana pool.
1 year ago
Have you considered Elvish Harbinger? I find the on-tribe tutor to be useful in my own Elf tribal deck. Also, I noticed Mana Reflection in your maybeboard, and I highly recommend it! Elves make so much mana of themselves that doubling it just wins games!
And just for thematic fun, have you thought about Gilt-Leaf Palace?
1 year ago
Hey, I think I understand you correctly when I say you want more utility/non-basic lands you can use in here? Do you have a budget in mind?
First off, I personally don't love Arcane Signet in a mono-Green deck, that shouldn't hurt to remove as a start? Sol Ring is probably good enough to keep. As for some non-basics you could look at, Wirewood Lodge is a good Elf land, Gilt-Leaf Palace is a good land maybe, not too cheap though. Tainted Wood might work, I'd consider Blighted Woodland, Tyrite Sanctum can make your Commander Indestructible, Mortuary Mire or Witch's Cottage can get you back a creature, I like to include bounce lands like Guildless Commons in decks short on lands (they count as 2 drops effectively), Nephalia Academy is probably useful if you face discard decks (bad if not though), Woodland Chasm can be found with Wood Elves (but comes in tapped unfortunately), Mosswort Bridge is a good Green land on a budget, War Room is a good one if you're splurging, Castle Locthwain can draw as well, but it's clunkier than War Room most of the time, Jungle Basin might be fine as a bounce land if you've got lots of basic forests, Castle Garenbrig has potential relevance, Buried Ruin can get back an artifact (if you add Vanquisher's Banner, or Staff of Domination, which combos very well with Elves), Scavenger Grounds can exile graveyards, and Bojuka Bog exiles 1 graveyard when it enters.
If you end up liking basics more than you expect, you could also go low on non-basic lands and use Primal Order, which can cause some decks considerable grief. I'll check in later, hope these give you something to think about at least!
2 years ago
If you are going with elf token theme, Presence of Gond might synergize well. You may also want to look at combos that utilize Devoted Druid (if you attache gond to devoted, there are a few ways to get infi elf token using ETB effects, like Ivy Lane Denizen or Coat of Arms.
Many elf decks can benefit from Skyshroud Poacher
I would get rid of Canopy Tactician it doesn't give that much mana at 3 CMC.
You might be able to eak 1% bu adding the other fetch lands, at the very least add Prismatic Vista
2 years ago
Misconception Thank you for all of your input. :)
I am not 100% sure on a set mechanic I wanted to use for it. But I will go ahead and say it's focused on the commander. I love it because it's low mana value and can really do some damage. Since it is based on how many creatures are on the battlefield AND graveyard I was trying to make my deck creature heavy so it would be stronger and do more damage in a single hit. Lightning Greaves is a really good idea actually. I feel dumb for not having thought of that myself. hahaha
I was thinking about lack of mana/lands as well. It is a concern but I wasn't completely sure on which cards to take out to make room for more mana. However, I have most of your recommended cards so I can start changing some out now because I can also agree on replacing the elves you listed as random. I think Nissa's Chosen is good just because it's a cheap mana cost and I can use it more than once..If it came back anyways. I was thinking of adding Nissa Revane which would then make it more valid and it's just a hella rude card even without Nissa's Chosen. But you're right as far as right now goes it's rather not needed. I like Talara's Battalion just because it's a low mana cost with trample. I do understand though there are definitely better choices out there though. Thornmantle Striker is in there more as to just kill off a semi-scary creature that might be on an opponent's side without losing any of my actual elves.. But I guess it is just the one single card that uses that mechanic so it's not really something that's absolutely necessary in this deck.
I didn't know that the card Skullclamp existed, but I like that one a lot. Thank you for the recommendation.
Bounty of Skemfar I do actually have and can put that in right now. I used to have it in there and I am not sure why I took it out to begin with? Confused with myself on that one. haha
& Beast Within I was looking into a while back, but the 3/3 beast token part of the card made it less appealing to me.. But now that you've brought it back to my attention I can see more appeal in it. Especially for the fact that it could get rid of anything. Who cares if they get a 3/3 beast token if you're getting rid of something scarier than that. haha I will think more on it for sure before saying no to it again.
Thanks again for all your help. I've only been playing magic for a few months so I'm still learning a lot. I'll update the deck with what I do have currently soon. & then I can go from there. :)
2 years ago
So to start if off, try asking yourself what your deck is trying to do and how it interacts with your commander. Are you trying to kill through commander damage? Or to flood your board with elves and pump'em up? Maybe to get into some graveyard shenanigans? How does your commander support your strategy? And lastly, How are you going to win? At least that's how I like to build my decks :)
What comes to my attention right off the bat is your mana base. If you are running on 33 Lands (Which is not a lot) you should at least include the usual mana dorks such as Llanowar Elves, Elvish Mystic, Fyndhorn Elves, Elves of Deep Shadow etc... Also, I find your lack of Sol Ring disturbing.
So far, your creatures seem to be a bit all over the place and personally, I find your creature count to be too high. Duskwielder, Masked Vandal, Nissa's Chosen, Talara's Battalion, Nullmage Shepherd and Thornmantle Striker seem the most random that do not go with any strategy I can see really apart from being an elf. Try to focus on a strategy and filter out the best elves to pull it off.
In case you are actually going for a graveyard/recursion/value theme, you need sac outlets like any Altar, really.
Generally good cards with any strat you might want to check out for this deck:
Skullclamp Amazing carddraw if tokens are available.
Beast Within Green staple for removal as it lets you get rid of almost anything, including lands.
Bounty of Skemfar Ramp + Dig a bit into your deck to get an Elf.
Lightning Greaves Commander staple for haste and protection.
Bojuka Bog Free Graveyard hate!
Gilt-Leaf Palace If not here, where else?
Hope that helped a bit :)
2 years ago
Katzmania I feel like Whisperer only fits Mono G. I've tried Elvish Visionary but find myself going back to Dwynen's Elite in that spot. I won't go back to Lead the Stampede main but I've considered adding Winding Way in the side to refill post-wipe. With the increased amount of 3CMC creatures, GB should be at 17 lands minimum but I totally agree it could use Nurturing Peatland. The lands are tuned for Quirion having 12 forests so I'd have to cut some Gilt-Leaf Palace. Thanks!
2 years ago
Hi! Thank you very much for the comment and the suggestions!
I have to confess, I didnt know Unnatural Selection until now. It is definetly a great card in this deck! I should consider to add it. However I would not replace Wings of Velis Vel in spite of the fact that it looks to be quite weak. The changelling instants are essential during the gameplay. Let me explain why:
It is every creature type so Sliver Overlord is able to find it directly. He can tutor a "sliver card", not a "sliver permanent", what means a great flexibility for all of the changelling instants.
It is every creature type so with Morophon, the Boundless on board you can actually cast it just for
It is every creature type so you can easily reanimate these instants via Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero . She is able to put a "Rebel card" not a "Rebel permanent" on the bottom of your library. That is how you can play it repeatedly.
The Wings of Velis Vel is quite versatile as well. Many times I have used the card as sort of "removal" of an opponent's dirty flyer when I have created my own surprising 4/4 flying blocker.
Last but not least: I dont want to fully optimize the deck. I would like to keep a bit of its sense of "lore". Therefore I want to play the tribal lands as Ancient Amphitheater , Gilt-Leaf Palace or Murmuring Bosk . For this reason I need a number of changelling cards to keep them functional (to reveal a Giant, Elf, Treefolk etc and to play them untapped)
Sure it is possible to replace Tendo Ice Bridge by Mana Confluence . In this case I just worry a bit to play too many pain lands, because the deck is not extremly fast and it doesnt have any easy way how to gain life.
You are right about the bordwipe as well. I used to play the Whelming Wave as a cheap and lore variant of Cyclonic Rift . Later, I beleave, I have replaced it with a counterspell, because I havent used it much. Anyway.. it is still in my mind.
Thank you once more for the comment and for discovering Unnatural Selection for me ;)