[[Primer]] - Daretti - Degenerate Artifacts

Commander / EDH Guerte

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Primer Update! —March 9, 2016

I've updated the list to reflect my current list. I have also updated the Primer to reflect these changes, and have add a Combo section to the Primer. Please feel free to let me know if I am missing any combos or interactions and I will add them in. So, as far as the changes go, here is what has happened:

OUT:

- Mind's Eye

- Hammer of Purphoros

- Starstorm

- Thran Dynamo

- Fellwar Stone

- Trading Post

- Comet Storm

- Thopter Assembly IN:

- Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger

- Voltaic Key

- Blinkmoth Urn

- Lightning Greaves

- Contagion Engine

- The Chain Veil

- Hellkite Igniter

- Staff of Nin

VexenX says... #1

WOW! This deck is moving fast! You might just pass me up at this rate! A deck like this one really deserves it though. I play a similar deck, but with much less flash. I don't have Gauntlet of Might, Mana Crypt, Mishra's Workshop, Bazaar of Baghdad, or Imperial Recruiter for painfully obvious reasons... maybe someday lol

February 19, 2016 2:25 a.m.

Guerte says... #2

VexenX: It took me quite awhile to make it this far. I'm hoping to continue to climb up in votes to solidify this as the #1 Daretti deck. So tell your friends to vote for it! Lol.

This really is my all time favorite deck; the first deck I've had real success with that everyone hates, or loves to see played. It's my pride and joy, so I wanted it to be the best it could be, so I definitely invested more than I probably should have. It probably didn't need to be pimped out, but it looks way cool in person.

February 19, 2016 10:15 a.m.

Cringe says... #3

February 20, 2016 10:01 a.m.

Guerte says... #4

Cringe: I've actually been considering that. Any suggestions for what you think I could cut?

February 20, 2016 10:57 a.m.

Dredge4life says... #5

Mesmeric Orb+Basalt Monolith and another artifact/combo piece? If you wanted to randomly infinite combo, no idea what the other pieces would be though.

February 20, 2016 11:05 a.m.

Cringe says... #6

Guerte I feel like either Hedron Archive or Trading Post's slots could be better used. While both of the cards are good, I think swapping one for Volt Key is probably going to end up being much more effective.

February 20, 2016 1:28 p.m.

VexenX says... #7

THREE DIGITS WOOT WOOT!!!

February 20, 2016 1:48 p.m.

Guerte says... #8

Dredge4life: Not sure infinite milling myself is where I want to be. Unless there's something I'm missing?

Cringe: Out of those two, I'd probably drop Trading Post.

VexenX: I know, right?! I was really excited to see that!

February 20, 2016 7:18 p.m.

abzanforever says... #9

Nice deck, but I'm not sure about the use of Unwinding Clock without Vedalken Orrery and Shimmer Myr. I'm also playing other boardwhipes instead of the Mycosynth Lattice + Vandalblast combo. Devastation is a great boardwhipe, as it drestroys everything but your artifacts, Oblivion Stone is a great boardwhipe too, which you can reuse with daretti whenever you need.

February 21, 2016 11:04 a.m.

Guerte says... #10

abzanforever: Unwinding Clock is used to simultaneously untap all my artifacts, whether it be mana rocks or artifact creatures that have attacked. I don't necessarily care about flashing in things, but it may be worth considering running Vedalken Orrery.

Mycosynth Lattice + Vandalblast isn't used necessarily as a board wipe or combo, it's a win condition. Hard for anyone to come back after that. I don't like running MLD as I feel that's better suited for a Stax deck. Same goes for board wipes. All Is Dust, Starstorm, Comet Storm, Ugin, the Spirit Dragon, etc the only types of wipes I will run.

February 21, 2016 2:49 p.m.

Abaques says... #11

Needs more Monkey Cage.

February 21, 2016 9:34 p.m.

alexyoung says... #12

My list is very similar, basically minus the expensive toys, but I would like to get your opinion on a few cards. I run some of these and some I'm considering. The Chain Veil, Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient (this one is really good with Mycosynth Lattice and combos for infinite red with Gilded Lotus and Voltaic Key), Extraplanar Lens, Ugin's Nexus, and Decree of Annihilation?

February 22, 2016 9:15 a.m.

alexyoung says... #13

Sorry for the double post but I also noticed no Krark-Clan Ironworks. Not only is it great ramp/sac outlet it goes infinite with Nim Deathmantle and creatures like Myr Battlesphere, Precursor Golem, and Wurmcoil Engine.

February 22, 2016 9:19 a.m.

Guerte says... #14

Abaques: Maybe in a more casual setting it could be fun, but I feel in competitive play it wouldn't be worth it.

alexyoung: Don't worry about the double post; makes it seem like it more active here with more comments. Lol.

Now, onto my thoughts:

The Chain Veil: At first, I didn't think it would fit in here with so few Planeswalkers, but with the addition of Chandra, Flamecaller, I could see it being included.

Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: Never been a fan of him. Rings of Brighthearth is much better and isn't limited to artifacts.

Extraplanar Lens: Can be used as a budget Gauntlet of Might. I personally won't use it as it can be 2-for-1'd and then you're down a land.

Ugin's Nexus: I used to run it when extra turn decks were prevalent. Once they disappeared, this did too. Can go infinite turns with Prototype Portal and a sac outlet.

Decree of Annihilation: As previously mentioned, not a fan of MLD, so won't run it. Only type of land destruction I'd run is Ruination.

Krark-Clan Ironworks: It's under consideration right now. Not sure if the one time ramp is worth losing artifacts. Definitely better with the emblem out.

Nim Deathmantle: Daretti, Scrap Savant and Goblin Welder are my preferred creature recursion, but if it works for you there is nothing wrong with that.

Hopefully that cleared things up a bit for you, if it hasn't, please let me know!

February 22, 2016 10:23 a.m.

zsedcx22 says... #15

Very cool deck!

February 23, 2016 8:22 a.m.

Guerte says... #16

zsedcx22: I appreciate the compliment and the +1!

February 23, 2016 9:17 a.m.

Ezuri099 says... #17

Sorry about it, but Metalworker is banned in EDH.

February 24, 2016 1:22 a.m.

Aztraeuz says... #18

Ezuri099, Metalworker is not banned in EDH. You can check the Banned List. It used to be on the list but it was removed years ago.

February 24, 2016 1:37 a.m.

Guerte says... #19

Ezuri099: It was removed from the Banned List September 2014. Good thing to, as it can be really bonkers in this deck.

Azire: Thank you for clearing that up for me!

February 24, 2016 8 a.m.

abzanforever says... #20

I would do some changes: Thopter Assembly, Hammer of Purphoros and Recoup out and Batterskull, Lightning Greaves and Mizzix's Mastery in. You could also cut other things instead of Recoup, Mizzix's Mastery just seems to be better, but you could play both. You should consider playing Ensnaring Bridge, this great card is perfect for Daretti, it protects you and Daretti until you got your Emblem or some big Stuff to kill your opponents. I won many games with this card in my Playgroup!

February 26, 2016 12:47 p.m.

Ezuri099 says... #21

Guerte: Thanks for pointing that out, I was out of the game for a little while during that time so that would explain the mix up. Feel free to play the card then :P

February 26, 2016 2:57 p.m.

tigerdigere says... #22

You should try The Chain Veil just for the sake of Daretti. He is your commander after all. Where is Squee, Goblin Nabob? With Daretti's +2, it's a must. Same thing with Anger but you already have Hammer of Purphoros. Is it an easy target since it's an enchantment AND an artifact? I've never played with it so in that case, I'll let you be the judge of that. Had a similar deck and I decided to change it into a prison/MLD deck. Not really fun and seeing yours make me wanna change back.

February 27, 2016 1:01 a.m.

tigerdigere says... #23

Forget about Squee, Goblin Nabob. Just saw him in your list. Sorry about that.

February 27, 2016 1:08 a.m.

Guerte says... #24

abzanforever: Thopter Assembly is good pitch fodder, makes a good flying blocker, and then produces a bunch of flying blockers. Hammer of Purphoros makes my things hasty, and produces blockers/attackers in a pinch. With Recoup, I can flashback something twice, or pitch it and still flash it back. Batterskull I feel is better suited for a Voltron type deck. Lightning Greaves only gives one of my creatures haste, and I'm not too worried about gaining shroud. Mizzix's Mastery isn't that great in this deck to be honest. Wouldn't be using the Overload much as there isn't exactly many spells I would be casting. Recoup is just better in this spot. Ensnaring Bridge is definitely on my radar. However, I don't find myself very often without a hand to fully utilize it.

Ezuri099: Not a problem. I shall play it until he is banned again, which is hopefully never.

tigerdigere: I have The Chain Veil on it's way, just not sure what to cut to try it out. Squee, Goblin Nabob is in here; he's my go-to guy with Imperial Recruiter! I'd rather have Hammer of Purphoros over Anger as it is recurrable with Daretti, Scrap Savant and can also create attackers/blockers if need be. I originally ran Anger, but I hate that it is graveyard reliant for it to have any affect.

I have tried the MLD/Stax version, and I absolutely hated it. I prefer this style of Daretti so I can play all of the stuff I love, which is all the cards in this deck! Lol!

February 27, 2016 1:19 a.m.

Still waiting for that Bazaar to be altered and a video submitted to CMDR decks ;) mind giving a shoutout to "SnowCoveredPlainsWalker" when ya do it? I want people to see my old Daretti deck on there and then see how Daretti looks when perfected, which is your list :)

February 27, 2016 2:24 a.m.