Better Things Than The Flash?

Asked by MoFi 7 years ago

Hello!

I have a Trading Post down and a Voldaren Pariah  Flip in my hand. It's the opponent's turn. They attack with a 2/2 whatever. So...can I activate Trading Post's first ability and cast Voldaren Pariah  Flip through it's madness cast to block that 2/2 to achieve a sort of pseudo-flash effect?

I guess my confusion is whether madness overrides when you could normally cast a card. I'm thinking no because madness states that you can "cast" the card after discarding it, which says to me that you must obey the rules for when you can cast that particular kind of card so, in this case, I could only do that on my turn because it's a creature card. I wanted to check anyway to make sure.

JerichoDarkstar says... Accepted answer #1

I'm not able to look up the official ruling, but Madness is actually instant speed.

Your opponent attacks with a 2/2. Before blockers are declared, you activate Trading Post's first effect and discard Voldaren Pariah  Flip.

You pay to cast Voldaren Pariah  Flip for it's Madness cost. Then, you can block with it.

March 31, 2017 11:34 a.m.

acbooster says... #2

Whenever a spell or ability instructs you to cast a card, you ignore any timing restrictions attached to it. Madness has two parts to it:

The first part is a static ability that reads, "When this card is discarded, exile it instead."

The second part is a triggered ability that reads, "When this card is sent into exile instead of being discarded, you may cast it by paying its madness cost."

Since Madness is instructing you to cast it, you do so ignoring all timing restrictions.

116.1. Unless a spell or ability is instructing a player to take an action, which player can take actions at any given time is determined by a system of priority. The player with priority may cast spells, activate abilities, and take special actions.

March 31, 2017 11:52 a.m.

MoFi says... #3

@JerichoDarkstar: Great! Thanks again, ninja.:)

enter image description here

@arcbooster: Thanks for the added technicals. Much appreciated.:)

March 31, 2017 noon

Epochalyptik says... #4

Note that some effects that define a duration during which you may do something. For example: Narset, Enlightened Master.

Effects like these do not ignore timing rules.

By contrast, effects that instruct you to do something (such as casting a card) without establishing a duration are instructing you to take that action immediately. In these cases, you may ignore normal timing restrictions.

March 31, 2017 7:43 p.m.

Please login to comment