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Rosheen Meanderer Discussion
1 week ago
The randomness of Charmbreaker Devils seems as though you'd more often than not be getting back something fairly low impact from your graveyard. Kind of expensive for what it does. You have enough regrow effects without them. Probably better off with Rosheen Meanderer for what you want to do.
Pirate's Pillage seems pretty underwhelming.
You can probably cut down 1 'copy spell' effect since this is why you're playing Wort in the first place. This is one type of spell effect that you only need so many in a deck before you're sitting with a bunch of them in hand with nothing to copy.
Earthcraft/Nest is a great combo but how are you assembling that? This deck doesn't have a lot of ways to pull these 2 cards together.
As for the rest of the cuts, I'd play with the deck a few times and the slackers will make themselves known.
2 months ago
I'mma be real with ya, chief... make Gargos, Vicious Watcher your commander. If not him, then Rosheen Meanderer . There is no reason for Gyrus, Waker of Corpses to be your general, as he's literally antithetical to casting X-spells! He can get almost none of your stuff back; just cut black and red, add some cards like Drumhunter , Abzan Beastmaster , Tuskguard Captain , Spearbreaker Behemoth , Moss Diamond , and heaping piles pf ramp.
In fact, if you want something a little less typical, it may be better to make a Marath, Will of the Wild deck with Paleoloth s, Spellbreaker Behemoth s, and all the removal, rocks, and ramp your heart could desire.
Still, that's all my opinion. Your deck is yours.
3 months ago
Since this list is really about ramping, I suggest you change the parameters and/or title to include non-creature ramp spells and also creatures and spells that reduce casting costs, which are all just as useful. If this is somehow too impure for your list, I'd be happy to start my own. Just let me know! Here's a few off the top of my head (some are actual dork creatures you're currently missing): Cabal Stronghold , Smothering Tithe , Paradise Mantle , Springleaf Drum , Utopia Sprawl , Fertile Ground , Dawn's Reflection , Market Festival , Weirding Wood , Overgrowth , Wild Growth , Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip, Explore , Harvest Season , Pyretic Ritual , Geosurge , Black Lotus , Mox Opal , Mox Amber , Mox Tantalite , Rosheen Meanderer , Gargos, Vicious Watcher , Heartless Summoning , Growth Spiral , Incubation Druid , Harabaz Druid , Savage Ventmaw
3 months ago
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3 months ago
I suggest adding substantial mana-ramp, namely Utopia Sprawl and Fertile Ground . (Growth Spiral doesn't cut it) Other ramp spells: Weirding Wood , Dawn's Reflection , Market Festival , Verdant Haven , Arbor Elf , Birds of Paradise , Llanowar Elves , Elvish Mystic , Incubation Druid , Elvish Archdruid , Noble Hierarch - In this case, I strongly favor strictly Enchantment ramping over creatures - dedicate your ramp to ramping and keep your creatures aggro.
Inspiring Call seems pretty good here, provided you have the mana to cast it.
I suggest cutting Bioshift and Growth Spiral. They're just not as versatile/consistent as other options. I also suggest cutting Bioessence Hydra and all the Planeswalkers. Bioessence Hydra necessitates all the PWs, so unless that's specifically your goal, it seems like it's unfocusing the deck. Just play as many Hydras as quickly as you can.
I don't find the aforementioned RG Hydras worth adding R as a third color. I do think Hydroid Krasis is worth keeping U.
3 months ago
Thank you for all the comments: Re: Ramping w/ enchantments, would it not just make the enchantments or the enchanted lands a target for removal? And what would I do to cover the hole in the defence left by having fewer creatures to defend with, since ramping without creatures removes the option to block and therefore i can get needled down a lot easier. I definitely agree with liking the flexibility of the hydra cards and think it is one of the main strengths of the deck. If less mana is required than previously estimated wouldn't that add to the case of using things like Arbor Elf , as this sacrifices some mana ramp reliability as you pointed out for some defence?
I see your point with Asceticism , as the 5CMC rules it out for a decent amount of the game anyway. I'll straight up just switch those round.
I see the point here more with Doubling Season , but solidarity of heroes has in playtests I've found come to the rescue a lot to accelerate a turn and is also very flexible in terms of number of targets so can just overwhelm removal. I do see your point with valuable real estate (i always struggle to keep my decks to 60, see my other half finished attempt at a deck), I'm just not sure Solidarity of Heroes is the card to drop, can definitely see that Doubling Season more serves to make a winning situation a winning harder situation.
I see that Garruks doesn't have perfect synergy with this deck, but have found him a very useful addition on many occassions with his wide array of abilities providing a good way to do several things from only 1 card slot.
I like the look of Gargos, Vicious Watcher and obviously a free 4 tokens on all my hydras, especially Hydra Broodmaster is a very attractive prospect. I'm a little worried that due to the the very high CMC, that it would only provide more winning in a situation of winning already. What creature spell would be worth cutting for it? I think with Rosheen Meanderer should have enough mana base that can be spent on anything green not to need the special effects of the additional 4 but that can only be spent on 'x'.
I'm not sure core set 19 and 20 were out when I first put the deck together, which is why I was interested on whether it needed updating. I like that Hungering Hydra has a nice low CMC, shame it's a bit harder to get it to scale than the likes of Primordial Hydra , but I could definitely get behind adding this. Protean Hydra was in a very early draft of this deck, the problem in my eyes is that it wouldn't really scale, nobody would go for attacking it unless they think they will kill it. It didn't seem like a bad card, so much as less good than some of the others.
I'm not too sure on Hydroid Krasis for the reasons you pointed out, but will have a think on whether can afford to add the splash, should be doable. What about one of the dual lands for enabling this?
I agree the mana base probably is the area with the most room for improvement and I do really like the look of that card for it's flexibility of being mana or pump. I think i'll put some Oran-Rief, the Vastwood in in place of Forest
Would you suggest leaving other Garruk in, and just removing G,CoB for Harmonize? So just the 2?
Again, I like both Fog and Revive, but not sure what I'd cut for them?
Scavenger Grounds I guess could work against decks that like to cheat things in to play. So far I've just been overwhelming them with the time it takes to do and just bring out something big to kill them off with, at the cost of tapping for specifically green mana. Seems much the same for Field of Ruin but for a fairly niche situation. Maybe these woyuld be better suited to the sideboard?
Nissa, Who Shakes the World goes really nice with this deck and allows you to make even more powerful hydras even quicker, but i don't feel like she patches any weaknesses in the deck, so much as just makes the strengths stronger. Would be interested to know other people's thoughts on this though?
Unbound Flourishing I really like and think the synergy with this deck is too good not to have for a 3CMC card - what do you reckon should be cut for it? Solidarity of Heroes ? as it does a very similiar job. I like Voracious Hydra for it's flexibility but it does only provide the 1 point of scaling and for much the same CMC you can have hydras that keep scaling ad infinitum. Gargos, Vicious Watcher we touched on before, and I really like the card, aside from the slight reservation that it might just make a winning game won harder and come in too late, it look really good for this deck - just not too sure what to cut for it?
Thanks for all the comments guys, they are really helpful - I'll make that first set of revisions and add your names to the list of acknowledgements.
Another thing I was wondering: Do I have the right number of creatures? And do i have the right number of lands? and what can I do to improve my land base, as I feel this is probably the area where improvements can be made without having to take anything away from the deck
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