Bishop of the Bloodstained
Creature — Vampire
When Bishop of the Bloodstained enters the battlefield, target opponent loses 1 life for each Vampire you control.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Bishop of the Bloodstained Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, you're welcome.
To start, cards to consider cutting are lands since you don't need 41 lands in an Orzhov Commander deck especially since there's so many basic lands. Consider 36 lands? Next are creatures who don't have flying or other evasion.
You want to make some choices of the kind of creatures/theme you want to play. There's a small Vampire theme here with Captivating Vampire, Malakir Bloodwitch, etc. For these Vamps to be worth playing you need a lot more Vampires because without Vamps they don't really do much. There's many Vampires who have evasion therefore if you choose you could increase the Vamps a lot and make your deck more Vampire tribal then anything else.
A reason to cut the Vamps is there's many more nonVamp creatures that are better. Neither Tymna or Ravos are Vamps which makes the tribe overall less good, no tribal synergy with your Generals. If you choose to keep the Vamps then include a lot more of them or if not then cut them.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Vicious Rumors
- Toll of the Invasion
- Lich's Caress
- Righteous Blow
- Bloodsoaked Altar
- Burglar Rat
- Corpse Knight
- Daybreak Chaplain
- Martyr for the Cause
- Tattered Mummy
- Sanctum Custodian
- Charity Extractor
- Gallant Cavalry
- Relief Captain
- Intrusive Packbeast
- Knight of Sorrows
- Evra, Halcyon Witness
- Loxodon Restorer
- Bishop of the Bloodstained
- Baird, Steward of Argive
- Firemind Vessel
I would cut all these cards, doesn't matter what direction for your deck you choose to go. There's better budget options for each one of these cards. Some cards such as Corpse Knight are good, but it doesn't go with the current strategy therefore I would cut it.
I don't recommend the Vampire direction, but if you want to play Vamps then I do offer advice for that direction.
7 months ago
Bloodlord of Vaasgoth is definitely a little pricey, but he gives me bulkier vamps thanks to bloodthirst, and as of now, I don't see him coming out. That could change, though. Bishop of the Bloodstained is on my list of cards that are coming out once the rest of my mail comes in. Anowon, the Ruin Sage is one of my favorite cards, honestly, but for reasons not present in this deck. All the cards you, championeggo, listed in regards to returning from the grave, do fit the theme I'm running with. Vampires are undead and are supposed to be notoriously hard to kill, which is annoying when someone drops a Murder or Vindicate as soon as you get a decent vamp on the field. As for Massacre Girl, she is my field wipe. She's also really funny to play.
7 months ago
Bishop of the Bloodstained would be a great finisher
Captivating Vampire would benefit from having a lot of creatures, and wins a lot of matchups
Drana, Liberator of Malakir would just be a must-remove threat, since she makes your army even bigger
Forerunner of the Legion would find important vampires
Gatekeeper of Malakir is just a good removal card in general
Indulgent Aristocrat would be good if you want something cheaper than drana
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet synergizes with most of your deck
11 months ago
i think you would have a stronger deck if you dropped blue altogether and replaced it with black, there are some really good vampire cards and removal that you're not using in BW. Adanto Vanguard Bishop of the Bloodstained Sanctum Seeker Skymarch Bloodletter Vicious Conquistador Call to the Feast Forerunner of the Legion Arterial Flow Dusk Legion Zealot Twilight Prophet Elenda, the Dusk Rose Legion Lieutenant Vindictive Vampire The Haunt of Hightower Vizkopa Vampire
1 year ago
If you're looking for creatures that drain your opponents and work great with other vampires, I suggest Sanctum Seeker, Epicure of Blood, and Bishop of the Bloodstained. If you want more ideas on vampires, I built a cheap and casual black/white vampire deck of my own. Feel free to check it out Black/White Vampires.
1 year ago
Personally, I don't like the rate on Banewhip Punisher, Oathsworn Vampire (It's just really bad Bloodghast), Sadistic Skymarcher, Tragic Poet, Foul-Tongue Shriek, Chalice of Life Flip, Fountain of Renewal, Bishop of the Bloodstained (Anthems and Sanctum Seeker will just be a lot more damage over the course of a game), Ravenous Chupacabra, Profane Procession Flip, or Underworld Connections. They're all just very low impact in a 40-life, 4-player format, with the exception of the last two. Profane Procession Flip is just so much more expensive than something like Rise of the Dark Realms, and while you're not the first person I've talked to who seems to think Underworld Connections is an acceptable substitute for Phyrexian Arena, man is it ever worse.
I don't like the rate on Call the Bloodline, either, unless you want to go deeper on a Madness or Reanimator theme, which could work, since you might want Voldaren Pariah Flip, anyway. If you did that, Call to the Netherworld gets back Elenda, Big Game Hunter is a nice replacement for Banewhip Punisher, Bishop of Rebirth could be decent, and bigger vamps like Nirkana Revenant, Patron of the Vein, Necropolis Regent, Guul Draz Overseer, Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter, and Butcher of Malakir become much more attractive. That would require a lot of changes, though. You could keep Profane Procession Flip and get a lot more out of Crypt of Agadeem that way, though, so maybe don't rule it out.
1 year ago
@ triproberts12 Thanks for the detailed reply!
I did not know that your commander had to go to the yard to count as dying, which definitely changes things a little. Skeletal Scrying, Cremate, Purify the Grave, Bloodline Necromancer, Unburial Rites, Faith's Reward, Hell's Caretaker, Second Sunrise all seem like very nice options for getting around that.
Dimir House Guard seems really good, especially since it doubles as a tutor for Phyrexian Altar. Pawn of Ulamog also seems like a very strong combo of token gen and ramp. In future I may go more heavily down the sacrifice route, but at the moment I still want to keep the Malakir Bloodwitch / Bishop of the Bloodstained ETB wincon, it feels a little more unique than the usual Blood Artist + Phyrexian Altar / Ashnod's Altar + tokens. Picking up a Vanquisher's Banner to buff the tribe a little and get some draw seems nice too.
What cards do you think should just be cut altogether? Providing I'm keeping to the idea of winning by sac, etb, or just having a strong board. Thanks very much for the suggestions you already gave, much appreciated.
1 year ago
update: as per the suggestion of The_Fallen_Duke I took out 1 Epicure of Blood for Sanctum Seeker Then also get rid of 3x Legion Conquistador(didnt feel they were doing too much) and 1 Voracious Vampire to make room for 1 more copy of Sanctum Seeker 1x Legion's Landing Flip (The_Fallen_Duke suggestion) and 1 more Bishop of the Bloodstained looking at possibly swapping in 2 more copies of Legion Lieutenant for something.