Hey VexenX, I love Burgeoning in the deck, it is almost if not the best turn 1 play we can have I would be very reluctant to cut it. If you're not seeing the value then of course do what works best with your play style.

In regards utility creatures there are a few I have tested, as mentioned World Shaper is a great Splendid reclaimation on stick, I rarely used it for the attack trigger and it normally got a bolt from Omnath, Locus of Rage or sacrificed to one of our many outlets, comboing this with Sylvan Safekeeper , Titania, Protector of Argoth and Omnath, Locus of Rage on the field is explosive. Other creatures I like but can't find space for are Skullmulcher , a creature + sac outlet and card draw on a body, Green Sun's Zenith or Chord of Calling this guy out when your sac outlets have been removed or countered to finish of a player second main phase, remember it is a may ability so can still keep enough tokens out for defense if needs be. The other option which is slightly less value but more reliable and cheaper CMC is Gluttonous Slime , this doesn't have the card draw but is an instant speed sac outlet. If I could find a space for one of them I'd include them but I haven't been able to justify the slot yet. There is also Silverglade Elemental and obviously Wood Elves , I used to run the latter and use it as a Natural Order target. I would typically do the same with Dryad Arbor keeping an uncracked fetch in play so I can find the Dryad Arbor when it's time to cast Natural Order or if you need a blocker at a push.
Some food for thought..

What made you not want to run Wrenn and Six after all?

I really like Sylvan Safekeeper as a replacement for Lightning Greaves - I'm a bit sad that Sylvan Safekeeper is a $115 foil however. If Titania, Protector of Argoth is out and you have Splendid Reclamation in hand.. brutal - add Omnath, Locus of Rage into the mix - total blowout.

Sylvanrush, have Amulet of Vigor out and play Scapeshift after for even more mayhem. Another ridiculous combo I found in the same vein is Tooth and Nail for It That Betrays and Keldon Firebombers . This was non-infinite use of Tooth and Nail (and I still have the photos) when both Omnath, Locus of Rage and Titania, Protector of Argoth were on the table...pretty gross haha.

It's been a while since I've commented on this deck. I just want to shine some light on a card that has been over-performing for me. My meta is dominated by blue decks, so I decided to try out Vexing Shusher . Guys...this card is legit. It also offers a lot of political value as well. It may not fit in a hyper-tuned aggressive build like VexenX's, but if you play a slower list like I do, you will be surprised at how well it performs.

How’s this for a new fetch land?

Guerte: FOR SURE going in the deck. I'm scared to see what the extended art is going to cost... my wallet is crying right now haha. Lotus Field is being cut (was kind of a place holder anyway).

I am currently deployed (getting back in two weeks!) and will be buying a car when I get back... so I am a bit behind when this deck is concerned. A key note is that the last update has been done in my head, but not in paper because the deck is safely back home haha. I will likely have to rock an non-foil Crop Rotation , Sylvan Safekeeper and Prismatic Vista until the finances calm down a bit haha.

What do you all think of Beanstalk Giant ? It puts a basic into play untapped for 3 mana, then you get a body later that's pretty big if you have a turn you're not doing much else on. I'm not sure what we'd replace, but I think it's worth considering.

GeminiSpartanX I really don't think it's worth a slot. It's ultimately a vanilla beater with an expensive land search alternative cost.

I know this has been discussed a bit and there is a lot of uncertainty around whether this card is worth a slot, however, I've been running Wrenn and Six recently, I decided to add it to the deck as it is a 2 drop. The thought behind this was that it helps with opening hands. Having a 2 land hand with no 2 drop is often quite a painful mulligan decision for this deck as for the most part we care about 3 and 4 mana ramp. Wrenn and Six fixes that issue as well as being removal for various elves/birds that our opponents might play turn 1. Retrace is also not to be ignored in this deck, discarding a land to reuse one of our good ramp cards late game or a Wheel of Fortune sounds like a great idea.

I agree with VexenX that planeswalkers in EDH often get focused down too quickly and often provide little value most of the time. Having played planeswalkers I think that this is more relevant to higher CMC walkers, Wrenn and Six being a 2 drop often avoids these issues.

I have actually been reconsidering Nissa, Vital Force as the card draw is great having the ability to Regrowth too seems like it should be revisited. What do you guys think?

Wanted to know if anyone has playtested Into the Wilds , on face value this could be a 4CMC do nothing, but I think that allowing us to look at the top card of our deck will allow us to make more informed plays with our fetch lands, do we want to shuffle our deck now? as well as potentially allowing us additional land drops when we want to ramp or make landfall triggers. I want to test this as I think it might be worth a 3/4CMC ramp sorcery slot. Anyone run it already and can give some input?

Hey _Arra_,

I’m not a fan of Nissa, Vital Force . The real reason to run it is for the carddraw right? If you don’t run proliferate or something like Pir, Imaginative Rascal , you need to wait a full turn and hope nothing happens to her to get it, while the rest of the table has an incentive to turn their resources towards you now. This is the reason I would advise against it, because you are putting 5 mana in a card that puts a target on your head before you receive any value from it, with a high chance of not getting that value at all and just end up being enemy of the table. And if you desperately need more cards, you might be in the worst position to deal with that increased threat level. I would much rather play a card draw spell that gets me the cards reliably, without impacting my threat level as much.

I’m also not a fan of Into the Wilds . Based on card quality, this is a stricly worse Oracle of Mul Daya . Also, if you don’t have ways to churn out 3 lands from the top reliably (which is going to at least take you 3 turns), any 4-cmc sorcery that fetches 2 lands is going to be better use of the slot.

Hi Beebles, thanks for responding.

I’ve run Omnath, Locus of Rage since he was spoiled/released and as such Nissa, Vital Force has been tested at length. My reasoning is whether or not the upside is actually worth the points you’ve raised and tbh I’m not sure. Omnath is also almost always arch enemy anyway in a semi competitive setting, cEDH not so mucg as in that situation we’re too slow anyway. I thought it was an interesting talking point as sometimes, as Omnath, Locus of Rage players, we cut cards only to return to them, case in point Mina and Denn, Wildborn who was excluded from the list for a good couple of years only to find a spot once more.

Oracle of Mul Daya is a better 4 drop, I’m not suggesting otherwise. I thought Into the Wilds was an interesting card, specifically in this deck, since we play a lot of fetches so can help us ‘fix’ the top of our deck and get incidental landfall value as it does not count towards lands played. Having discussed this card in my play group I think this card (in this deck) could be great but has large variables. Triggering on the next upkeep is it’s weakness as in some games, as you’ve said, it’ll be a poor man’s Oracle of Mul Daya or a 4cmc do nothing and an unreliable ramp card. However, late game I wonder, and this was the reason I thought it merited discussion. A card that has the potential to deliver high value and be very strong or is it just lack lustre?

Hmm. Interesting :).

_Arra_, I did not consider the point you raise about already having a target on your head playing Omnath, as I run a Mina and Denn list ;), who tend to fly under the radar. Still, Nissa, Vital Force is an inconsistent card with a big potential upside. Maybe choosing whether to play Nissa is more dependent on your play preferences and what risks you are willing to take. It ís a strong effect after all. I guess I would personally still prioritize consistent card draw over greedy ones if I was selecting for an omnath build. Even if the potential rewards are as good as a permanent Tatyova.

However, I still don’t think Into the Wilds is worth it, even in Omnath with a lot of fetches. I’m actually confused you bring up fetches, because they aren’t going to help you much in making ITW perform better. ITW’s ability triggers at the beginning of your upkeep, so you only get to look at 1 card. It’s not like Oracle of Mul Daya were you can play lands from top as long as there is one there, and crack a fetch to look again. ITW lets you look only once per upkeep, so you really need cards like Top or Sylvan Library to up your odds of hitting that land...

Hey Beebles, you’re right, I was thinking we could utilise more like w green Future Sight but as you rightly pointed out we only get that ability once on the upkeep.

I realised another great interaction tonight at my LGS, that being Fabled Passage and Amulet of Vigor . If we stack the untap triggers correctly we get to net a mana! This actually enables some turn 2 Omnath, Locus of Rage plays as using Fabled Passage is an easier way to get the double red early.

Adding Castle Garenbrig also helps earlier plays. I’ve already added a boarderless Fabled Passage to my deck replacing Evolving Wilds however, does anyone have any suggestions for a suitable cut for the green castle? I’m currently viewing Castle Garenbrig as a green Ancient Tomb of sorts and great acceleration as it can get either Omnath Locus if Rage out earlier or another of several of our utility creatures.

Major congrats on passing +1000 upvotes!

What are your thoughts about the new Theros card, Nyxbloom Ancient?

TheEmgee: I think Nyxbloom is a really cool card, but not for this deck It is much more at home in a deck wh Other ways to sink a ton of extra mana.

With this you could remove Mina and Denn And slot in Valakut

ment to link picture its supposed to be Dryad of the Ilysian Grove

XinZhao: I think is is a fine replacement for a budget build if you dont have an Oracle of Mul Daya , but the utility of Mina and Denn bouncing lands has won me many games. The trample is a nice cherry on top too. As you could imagine with all our ramp, color is never a problem. Valakut is useless 99% of the time, and adding one card to make it work is just a bad gamble.

I personal am going to give it a try. As it can be fetched with any creature search and with scape shift makes for a mean combo

Nylea's Intervention is another very nice possible addition.. I also play Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle and Prismatic Omen in my Omnath version, so I'll likely be adding Dryad of the Ilysian Grove - it's just super good.. the tough part will be figuring out what to cut ;)

Hello, can you please update your deck with the changes your have made in the last update (1074 Upvotes! 123 from #2 EDH Deck! (MH1 & C20) — June 27, 2019). I don't see Lotus Field in your deck

zaytsevi: VexenX's updates are quite large and have multiple sets in between, probably to make them have more content than just a single card substitution each time. In regards to Lotus Field he has earlier commented on this page that it has just been a placeholder and would probably swap it for a Fabled Passage.

He has not made an official update for this swap, but the deck does contain Ghost Town, the card that was originally swapped for Lotus Field. In addition, the deck does not contain Burgeoning, which is the only card in the deck that really justifies the inclusion of Ghost Town, so he has probably taken that single change back until next update where Fabled Passage will be included.

Sylvanrush

I recommend cutting Omen you have no reliable was to find enchantments in Green/Red unfortunately. However Green has plenty of ways to not only search for lands and drop them into play but also creatures making it overall a far more consistent choice. I would say you do not need both

XinZhao - you make a really good pt.. while it's hard to take out the Prismatic Omen (it's a beautiful foil), the Dryad of the Ilysian Grove is so much easier to tutor up. I've removed the Prismatic Omen and put Hour of Promise in it's place.