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Rules Q&A
Kethis, the Hidden Hand
Legendary Creature — Elf Advisor
Legendary spells you cast cost less to cast.
Exile two legendary cards from your graveyard: Until end of turn, each legendary card in your graveyard gains "You may play this card from your graveyard."
Xavier2184 on
A shrine to Captain Sisay
5 months ago
Esika, God of the Tree Flip, Dynaheir, Invoker Adept, Kethis, the Hidden Hand, Cadric, Soul Kindler, Ratadrabik of Urborg, Jukai Naturalist, Enlightened Tutor, Worldly Tutor, Idyllic Tutor, Lithoform Engine, Strionic Resonator, Weatherlight, Legacy Weapon, Paradox Haze, Starfield of Nyx, Calix, Destiny's Hand, Hall of Heliod's Generosity, Minamo, School at Water's Edge, and lastly all the signets sense they're about as good as they get when it comes to color fixing
multimedia on
All hail the Coalition
6 months ago
Hey, good start, still have 25 cards to cut though which is a lot.
Lets start with cutting noncreature spells and then move to cutting creatures? First cuts to consider:
- Myriad Landscape
- Ash Barrens
- Shamanic Revelation
- Search for Tomorrow
- The Celestus
- Xenagos, the Reveler
You can afford to cut a couple of the subpar lands for five colors. Ash Barrens is fine if you want to spend one mana to fetch a basic land, but if you have to play it as a land then it could slow down being able to cast Jodah too much. Shamanic Revelation is not good draw here for five mana. You're much more likely to have a higher power creature than the same number of creatures equal or more than the amount of power.
There's 40 creatures here, but if I was building this deck I would play only 20 of them which includes both nonLegendary Elders. Some advice to consider is choose the 20-25 best Legendary creatures and cut the others? Since you're not playing hatebears, what you're looking for with Legends are getting value from other Legends or casting spells from exile. How they support Jodah because he's the best attacking creature when you control other Legends.
Using Legendary creatures you're currently playing here's how I would break down the priority areas from Legends to keep:
Those who draw, ramp or find other Legends.
- Sisay, Weatherlight Captain
- Reki, the History of Kamigawa
- Esika, God of the Tree Flip
- Shanid, Sleepers' Scourge
- Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain
- Maelstrom Wanderer
- Rashmi, Eternities Crafter
- Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder
- Niambi, Esteemed Speaker
Those who make Jodah a better attacker.
- Halana and Alena, Partners
- Kamiz, Obscura Oculus
- Odric, Lunarch Marshal
- Surrak Dragonclaw
- Arvad the Cursed
Those who help for recovery from removal.
Those who are support, but don't fit into the other areas.
In place of two of the lesser Legends consider Legend tutors, Time of Need and Search for Glory?
Some Legends within the budget to consider adding:
Good luck with your deck.
Buffus on Kethis, the hidden hand possible …
6 months ago
Hi,
If i have in play :
Morophon, the Boundless (choose human when enter the battlefield)
After i used kethis ability to play legendaries from my graveyard, can i infinitely sac a legendary human to phyrexian altar and cast It for free thanks to morophon + jodah ?
In this case a can obtain infinite colored mana
I'm trying to obtain infinite colored mana for my Sisay 5c legendary human tribal and i find out this one, the problem is that idk how to tutor phyrexian altar. Thank you for your future replies. Buffus.
Delphen7 on Advice for Slogurk, the Overslime …
8 months ago
At one point there was the legendary tribal deck that tried to win by looping Mox Amber with Diligent Excavator and Kethis, the Hidden Hand on the battlefield maybe try in that list?
Unlife on So what are the Background …
9 months ago
Abaques, I'd forgotten about those creatures, I'll have to include them. I was bouncing between Saskia the Unyielding and Nethroi, Apex of Death, but now I'm thinking maybe Kethis, the Hidden Hand would actually work better, even if he has no combat abilities.
Polaris on Is Kethis, the Hidden Hand …
1 year ago
No, for two reasons. First is that when a card changes zones, or loses the ability Kethis gives. See the Oracle ruling on Kethis, the Hidden Hand: _ Kethis’s last ability affects only legendary cards that are in your graveyard at the time it resolves. Legendary cards put into your graveyard later in the turn won’t gain the ability. If you play a legendary card and it returns to your graveyard, it won’t have the ability anymore. (2019-07-12)_
From this, we can see that Kethis is worded so as to prevent looping.
Second is that Hope of Ghirapur's ability requires a target, specifically "target player who was dealt combat damage by Hope of Ghirapur this turn." Similarly to how cards changing zones lose the Kethis cast option, when you recast Hope of Ghirapur it is considered a new creature—critically, it's not the same creature that dealt combat damage, so no player is a legal target. You can't activate the ability without a target, so this also prevents you from looping.
However, as long as you have cards to exile to Kethis and you can keep swinging in, there's nothing stopping you from doing this once per turn and locking your opponent out of noncreature spells.
KBK7101 on Commander for Abzan Aristocrat deck
1 year ago
Tayam, Luminous Enigma and Ghave, Guru of Spores are probably your best bets, as mentioned above. Other options include Kethis, the Hidden Hand, which would require some sort of legendary sub-theme, Nethroi, Apex of Death, which doesn't require Mutate cards but would greatly benefit from them, and Teneb, the Harvester or Karador, Ghost Chieftain for general graveyard shenanigans. As far as partner pairings are concerned, Ravos, Soultender and Tormod, the Desecrator is great for graveyard stuff while Reyhan, Last of the Abzan and Alharu, Solemn Ritualist are synergistic with counters and aristocrats stuff. Mix and match them because partner commanders are awesome!
I do think Tayam or Ghave would be your best shot, but the others may prove to be interesting depending on your personal preferences.
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